Yonkers, NY- 4th Alarm 03-14-22 (Updated)

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Some trivia- 19 years to the day of the Nodine Hill fire. Almost 3 years to the day of the Garrett Place fire.

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turk132 said:
No, different threads
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FDNY uses NYC standard threads which is less threads to the inch compared to National Standard thread which Yonkers and other Westchester County departments use. It used to be that if you had any reason to respond into Westchester County you had adaptors and I know many of the Westchester departments, if not all, had adaptors for NYC
 
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Nasibova said:
Why are there different threads?
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There are 3 main types of threads for fire hose: NY Corp, FDNY and National Standard. Alot of it goes back to the 1800's and early 1900's when there was no standardization. Nowadays its usually addressed in the building code.

NYC requires FDNY threads on hydrants and standpipes. Yonkers requires NY Corp threads. I've heard stories where companies on routine drills found standpipes where there were different threads on different floors based on who did the install.

Most of the older cities along the east coast figured it out after they burned half of their cities down. There's a story that during the Great Baltimore Fire, FDNY sent pumpers down on trains and they couldn't pump any water due to not having the right threads to hook into Baltimore's hydrants.

After 9/11 there was a big push by the FDNY to make sure the surrounding department's had adaptors for operating in NYC. This was addressed through annual interoperability training days. In Westchester, you can find all three types throughout the county, and even a few 1-off thread types. Most of the career departments carry a full set of adaptors on every rig. From what I understand, the border companies in the city do too. That also includes the magnetic hydrant wrenches used in NYC and Yonkers and wrenches for the new style "minion" hydrants popping up in the Sound Shore area.
 
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GFD70 said:
There are 3 main types of threads for fire hose: NY Corp, FDNY and National Standard. Alot of it goes back to the 1800's and early 1900's when there was no standardization. Nowadays its usually addressed in the building code.

NYC requires FDNY threads on hydrants and standpipes. Yonkers requires NY Corp threads. I've heard stories where companies on routine drills found standpipes where there were different threads on different floors based on who did the install.

Most of the older cities along the east coast figured it out after they burned half of their cities down. There's a story that during the Great Baltimore Fire, FDNY sent pumpers down on trains and they couldn't pump any water due to not having the right threads to hook into Baltimore's hydrants.

After 9/11 there was a big push by the FDNY to make sure the surrounding department's had adaptors for operating in NYC. This was addressed through annual interoperability training days. In Westchester, you can find all three types throughout the county, and even a few 1-off thread types. Most of the career departments carry a full set of adaptors on every rig. From what I understand, the border companies in the city do too. That also includes the magnetic hydrant wrenches used in NYC and Yonkers and wrenches for the new style "minion" hydrants popping up in the Sound Shore area.
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Thanks for the explanation. But too bad there's just not one thread nationally, l mean why wouldn't there be... sort of insane needing adapters for thread issues.
 
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