1/5/21 Manhattan 4th Alarm Box 1797

[UnitWithTheUrgent]

Address: 74 Post Ave. off West 204th St.

Fire on the top floor and in the dumbwaiter shaft & into the cockloft of a 6 story 150x75 class 3 MD

Phone Alarm Box 1797 - Reporting a fire in apt. 4D - 19:04

B-13: Transmit a 10-75 - Fire on top floor - All Hands - 19:09

TL-46 FAST, E-75 & TL-33 for window bars

B-13: 2 L/S, 1 into 4F & the other line in 4E for extension - 19:15

D-7: Transmit a 2nd Alarm - Fire in the cockloft - 19:18

B-17 RUL, B-18 Safety, E-72 w/ Sat. 2

D-7: 4 L/S, 2 L/O - Trench cut has been made on the A wing on the roof - DWH - 19:31

D-7: Special call 2 additional trucks (H&L-34 & L-56) - 19:40

D-7: Special call an additional truck (L-38) to replace TL-46 as the FAST truck, we're putting TL-46 to work as a TL - 19:46

D-7: Transmit a 3rd Alarm - 19:47

B-15 Staging, B-58 Air Recon, E-263 Comm.

Staging: Post Ave. at West 204th St.

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks into the CP (L-37 & L-27) - 20:00

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks into the CP (L-30 & TL-44) - 20:24

FC: By the orders of C-4d, Transmit a 4th Alarm - 20:26

FC: Notify NYPD aviation that their helicopter is flying a little too low over the fire building - 20:27

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks (L-52 & L-19) - 20:28

FC: Per C-4d, Fire on the top floor into the cockloft & through the roof & in the dumbwaiter shaft - 6 L/S/O - AVFKD - DWH - 20:35

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks (L-49 & TL-58) - 21:04

FC: Per C-4, 2 TL's in operation - Still extinguishing small pockets of fire - Companies on the top floor are checking for extension - Special call 3 additional trucks into staging (TL-31, L-55 & TL-17) - DWH - 21:29

FC: Special call 2 trucks into staging (L-28 & TL-23) - 21:57

FC: Per C-4, trucks are continuing to open up & extinguishing small pockets of fire - PWH - 22:10

FC: Transmit a 10-41 code 1 (undetermined cause) - 22:16

D-7: Under Control - Special call 1&1 & a BC to establish a watchline (E-10, TL-35 & B-9) - 22:47

Duration: 3 hours & 47 min.

Maybe:
E-95, 93, 67, 81, 75 w/b
L-36, 45, 46F, 33 w/b
B-13, 19
R-3
SQ-*61
D-7
RAC-1

*Normally assigned SQ-41 operated (as an engine) at Bronx AH Box 2151

2nd Alarm Maybe:
E-42, 84, 79
L-59, 34 s/c, 56 s/c, 38F s/c
B-27, 17R, 18S
FC, RB, SB, TSU-1, RM, CTU
E-72 w/ Sat. 2

3rd Alarm:
E-273 (act. 79), 46, 92, 88
L-37 s/c, 27 s/c, 30 s/c, 44 s/c
B-15 Staging, 58 Air Recon
MSU
E-263 Communications
RAC-3
Car-4d, 22c, 12c, 23d

4th Alarm:
E-43, 80, 69, 62
L-52 s/c, 19 s/c, 49 s/c, 58 s/c, 31 s/c, 55 s/c, 17 s/c, 28 s/c, 23 s/c
B-16
Car-12, 33, 4, 24b

Watchline at 23:00
E-10
L-35
B-9

Relocations include:
E-22 to E-95
E-66 to E-81
E-50 to E-75
E-262 to E-67
E-65 to E-84
E-54 to E-93
E-24 to E-54
E-16 to E-69
E-94 to E-42
E-5 to E-22
E-39 to E-50
E-313 to E-46
E-273 to E-79
E-291 to E-43
E-211 to E-92
E-295 to E-62
E-218 to E-16
E-298 to E-263
L-25 to L-36
L-2 to L-19
L-26 to L-49
L-24 to L-28
L-136 to L-38
TL-41 to TL-33
TL-50 to TL-58
TL-1 to TL-23
TL-115 to TL-45
TL-160 to TL-44
TL-105 to TL-17
B-8 to B-13
B-53 to B-27
B-4 to B-8
B-49 to B-17
B-48 to B-18

Some 2nd section relocations: (due to limit of 3 hours per relocator)
E-21 to E-84
E-60 to E-81
E-34 to E-67
E-91 to E-95
E-205 to E-75
L-148 to L-36
TL-9 to TL-45
B-7 to B-13

3rd section relocations:
E-47 to E-95
E-68 to E-67
H&L-40 to L-36

 

[Signal73]

Address: 74 Post Ave.

 

[BronxMPO]

Trench Cut

 

[RetBxLt]

E43 should be 3rd due and L59 FAST. Were they at another box

 

[BronxMPO]

E43 was relocated to E60 earlier

 

[Bklyn Buff]

Trench Cut

What does the trench do? And how does it get applied.

 

[Peter]

Just transmitted the 4th alarm

 

[CFDMarshal]

What does the trench do? And how does it get applied.

Picture a trench cut in the roof usually at a distance or a transition point of the building used to prevent the fire from extending the entire length of the roof. works well when coordinated with hose teams and trucks pulling ceilings below. Can be time consuming and fire moves faster than the trench can be opened.

 

[entropychaser]

The roof must be opened above the fire before the trench cut can be made.

 

[4 truck]

Picture a trench cut in the roof usually at a distance or a transition point of the building used to prevent the fire from extending the entire length of the roof. works well when coordinated with hose teams and trucks pulling ceilings below. Can be time consuming and fire moves faster than the trench can be opened.

In order to pull the trench on the roof a charge hose line needs to be on the roof. Usually try and do it in the throat or cut the one wing in half. Usually use the bulkhead as a starting or end point

 

[FDNY Response Videos]

Got there like 25 mins in. Was a real shock when “urgent, we have fire in 2F” came over the air. Seems like debris on fire in the shaft lit up the walls in the F line from the 2nd floor up

 

[Skyler Fire]

 

[4 truck]

Exhibit A

 

[BoroCall]

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[Roofman26]

Do they hold back Engine 52 & Ladder 52 from leaving the Riverdale section of the Bronx?
Distance wise, they should have been dispatched on the second.

 

[MagicMan17]

What does the trench do? And how does it get applied.

Picture from Instagram account boogie down truck work, some great tactics tips from BX firefighters on there.

 

[4 truck]

they could’ve not been available or they are aren’t on the alarm plan till then.

 

[BronxMPO]

They keep the 52’s in Riverdale, isolated part of the Bx

 

[THEMAJESTIRIUM1]

( FDNY BOX 1797 - MANHATTAN ) - FDNY BATTLING A FEROCIOUS FAST MOVING 4TH ALARM FIRE IN A MULTIPLE DWELLING ON POST AVENUE.IN THE INWOOD AREA OF MANHATTAN IN NEW YORK CITY.

 

[UnitWithTheUrgent]

Do they hold back Engine 52 & Ladder 52 from leaving the Riverdale section of the Bronx?
Distance wise, they should have been dispatched on the second.

L-52 is in the rundown spacial called on the 4th. the engine I believe was not.