1/9/22 Bronx 5th Alarm 10-77 Box 3162

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a) There were no jumpers from the upper floors; but people were hanging out those windows

The first due engine must have taken some beating. After finally making it to the apartment and finding the door open, they reportedly then had to go downstairs to get to eventually get to the seat of the fire.
 
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Many guys took a real beating today. Climbing stairs in full PPE, in the dark, on SCBA air doing searches of stairways, apartments and hallways. All victims then had to be carried down the stairs and out in a hurry. Many lives were saved.
Take a look at the pics of the faces of the guys out in the street afterward.
 
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I believe this is the building we had a bad compactor fire back in the mid 80's. We pulled up second due with smoke pushing out all over with people screaming out the windows. The chauffer of 88 Engine got on the PA and tried talking to the people.

If I remember right I believe a number of these floors are duplex and criss cross
Yes indeed, I remember showing up with E 88, people were hanging out windows, I thought for sure someone was going to jump and land on me. Prayers for all those involved.
 
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I've done my best to put together a run down of EMS traffic for this job. Be mindful dispatch was chaotic at times and this incident was run across 3 channels (Bronx North, Bronx South and Citywide 1) but I've done my best to put together the traffic from Citywide which was the primary channel for the incident. I hope this provides an interesting insight for members into the EMS perspective at an incident like this.

1059 HazTac 1 Fire have transmitted a 10-77, unconscious patient at location, show me responding

1100 Citywide Attention all citywide units notification of MCI 10-77 High Rise Residential Fire 333 East 181 Street near Valentine Avenue in the Bronx Box 3162

1104 Citywide To all units box upgraded to a 2nd Alarm

1105 Conditions 19 10-84 Staging Area will be Valentine Street between 181 and 182

1106 Citywide to Car 522, 13W are scheduled to change crew in 15 minutes would you like me to cancel?
522 - Any other ALS available?
CW - No other ALS in the Bronx, we have ALS responding from Manhattan and Queens
522 - Have them keep coming.

1109 Medical Branch @ Box 3162 Fire on the ? Floor, potential for injuries high for civilians and public safety personnel

1113 MB@3162 We have 2 Red Tags need units ASAP

1114 MB@3162 Ongoing risk to civilians and public safety personnel, 2 Red Tags, confirm how many units I have on scene and responding, I need additional units to the Command Post
CW - You have 5 BLS, 1 ALS and 1 Rescue on scene

1114 19K to MB Red Tag coming out to the bus

1116 MB@3162 We have 3 Red Tags, need 5 more BLS and 5 more ALS, all units respond in to the Command Post
CW Confirm you require that on top of your current resources
MB Affirmative please assign more BLS and ALS units

1120 Staging I need more units, I have no units I, need more units, as soon as a unit pulls up they’re taking off

1122 Citywide Attention all units, fire has been upgraded to a 4th Alarm

1122 (Unknown) We’re coming to you we’re coming to the ambulance with a baby

1123 (Unknown) 15Z are treating 1 Red Tag Paediatric

1123 (Unknown) Need ALS to the Command Post another Red Tag in arrest

1124 (Unknown) Another one coming down to the Command Post now

1124 (Unknown) Two arrests coming out now

1125 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 9, 6 Red Tag, 1 Orange Tag, 2 Green Tag, being treated by 27V 27E 26C 18B, Sectors Established, Conditions 19 is Communications and Tracking, Conditions 26 is Staging & Treatment, HazTac 1 is Rescue Group

1126 MB@3162 Have an additional Red Tag coming out, Patient Count 10, require additional units
CW - You have 7 BLS 5 ALS on scene, 5 additional BLS 3 additional ALS responding
MB - Require 2 more ALS

1128 MB@3162 Assign 2 additional Rescue Medics

1130 MB@3162 Confirm we have a MERV assigned
CW - Affirm MERV7 is 10-84
MB - Have the crew report to the Command Post

1138 MB@3162 Progress Report, Risk Remains High, Patient Count 14, 10 Red Tag, 4 Green Tag, we need additional units all units on scene are being utilised if you have an available unit assign them require both BLS and ALS

1149 MB@3162 Progress Report, Risk Remains High, Patient Count 20, 16 Red Tag, 4 Green Tag, all units are being utilised please assign additional BLS and ALS units as many as you can provide, patients are coming out continuously, another Red Tag has just been brought out now

1150 MB@3162 Be advised a lot of the Red Tags are paediatrics and are in cardiac arrest

1159 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 24, 19 Red Tag, 5 Green Tag, We now have Conditions 18 as Secondary Staging, Conditions 17 in the MERV and Conditions 14 as Treatment

1159 Citywide Information from Hospital 23 they can handle two more patients and that’s it

1202 Car 5O Hospital tracking has been implemented, Conditions cars deployed to Hospitals 83, 23 and 25

1204 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 29, 22 Red Tag, 1 Orange Tag, 6 Green Tag, all civilians

1205 MB@3162 Please instruct LSU1 to bring as many BVMs as they have to the Command Post

1209 MB@3162 Progress Report, Fire operations ongoing, risk remains high, Patient Count 33, 28 Red Tag, 1 Orange Tag, 6 Green Tag, all units on scene are being utilised, please assign additional BLS and ALS units

1209 27C Place Hospital 23 on diversion they are by far maxed out they cannot handle anymore patients they are at capacity

1210 27R Any ALS units in the area bring their Cyno Kits to Hospital 23 for multiple paediatric patients

1211 (Unknown) I have 4 Cyno Kits I’m going to the Command Post right now

1211 14Z Responding with 3 Cyno Kits, dropping them at Hospital 23 and then continuing to the scene

1212 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 37, 30 Red Tags, 2 Orange Tags, 5 Green Tags, all incoming units come directly to the front of the building, bring all your BVMs and SKEDs to the Command Post

1218 27R (and multiple other units) responding back to the scene after transporting their patient to the hospital

1220 14A Departing Station 14 for the MCI with additional BVMs, Oxygen, SKEDs and other equipment onboard

1224 Citywide All units already assigned to a job please continue to your current assignment, do not release to attend the MCI

1228 27R No more ambulances to Hospital 83, there’s no where to park and they’re out of beds, we have units parking on Third Avenue

1231 Citywide to Conditions 16 you’re required at Hospital 17 and then Hospital 16 for Patient Tracking

1237 CW to MB@3162 Do you need a second MERV?
MB - If you have another available send it
CW - MERV9 coming to you now

1242 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 54, 32 Red Tag, 3 Orange Tag, 19 Green Tag

1242 27C Have Cyno Kits on board headed to Hospital 83

1244 MB@3162 Progress Report Patient Count 54, 32 Red Tag, 3 Orange Tag, 19 Green Tag, Car 5 now Medical Branch Director,

1253 MB@3162 Progress Report, risk remains high, Patient Count remains 54, Car 562 is ? Group Leader, under them is Conditions 17 Tracking Officer, Conditions 18 Staging Officer, Car 522 is Treatment Group Leader, under them is Conditions 19 and Conditions 14, we have Conditions 26 as Rehab Officer, HazTac 1 and HazTac 3 as Rescue Group, Car 5 is Medical Branch Leader, Car 5C is Deputy Medical Branch Leader

1256 MB@3162 No further Cyno Kits needed at this time

1312 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 60, 59 Civilians, 1 Orange Tag Firefighter

1412 MB@3162 Progress Report, Risk Low, Total Patient Count will be 66, 32 Red Tag, 10 Orange Tag Civilians, 1 Orange Tag Firefighter, 20 Green Tag Civilians, 4 Green Tag Firefighters, we are in the process of de escalation, units will call you when available, we also have 6 RMAs with 5 Mary
 
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I've done my best to put together a run down of EMS traffic for this job. Be mindful dispatch was chaotic at times and this incident was run across 3 channels (Bronx North, Bronx South and Citywide 1) but I've done my best to put together the traffic from Citywide which was the primary channel for the incident. I hope this provides an interesting insight for members into the EMS perspective at an incident like this.

1059 HazTac 1 Fire have transmitted a 10-77, unconscious patient at location, show me responding

1100 Citywide Attention all citywide units notification of MCI 10-77 High Rise Residential Fire 333 East 181 Street near Valentine Avenue in the Bronx Box 3162

1104 Citywide To all units box upgraded to a 2nd Alarm

1105 Conditions 19 10-84 Staging Area will be Valentine Street between 181 and 182

1106 Citywide to Car 522, 13W are scheduled to change crew in 15 minutes would you like me to cancel?
522 - Any other ALS available?
CW - No other ALS in the Bronx, we have ALS responding from Manhattan and Queens
522 - Have them keep coming.

1109 Medical Branch @ Box 3162 Fire on the ? Floor, potential for injuries high for civilians and public safety personnel

1113 MB@3162 We have 2 Red Tags need units ASAP

1114 MB@3162 Ongoing risk to civilians and public safety personnel, 2 Red Tags, confirm how many units I have on scene and responding, I need additional units to the Command Post
CW - You have 5 BLS, 1 ALS and 1 Rescue on scene

1114 19K to MB Red Tag coming out to the bus

1116 MB@3162 We have 3 Red Tags, need 5 more BLS and 5 more ALS, all units respond in to the Command Post
CW Confirm you require that on top of your current resources
MB Affirmative please assign more BLS and ALS units

1120 Staging I need more units, I have no units I, need more units, as soon as a unit pulls up they’re taking off

1122 Citywide Attention all units, fire has been upgraded to a 4th Alarm

1122 (Unknown) We’re coming to you we’re coming to the ambulance with a baby

1123 (Unknown) 15Z are treating 1 Red Tag Paediatric

1123 (Unknown) Need ALS to the Command Post another Red Tag in arrest

1124 (Unknown) Another one coming down to the Command Post now

1124 (Unknown) Two arrests coming out now

1125 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 9, 6 Red Tag, 1 Orange Tag, 2 Green Tag, being treated by 27V 27E 26C 18B, Sectors Established, Conditions 19 is Communications and Tracking, Conditions 26 is Staging & Treatment, HazTac 1 is Rescue Group

1126 MB@3162 Have an additional Red Tag coming out, Patient Count 10, require additional units
CW - You have 7 BLS 5 ALS on scene, 5 additional BLS 3 additional ALS responding
MB - Require 2 more ALS

1128 MB@3162 Assign 2 additional Rescue Medics

1130 MB@3162 Confirm we have a MERV assigned
CW - Affirm MERV7 is 10-84
MB - Have the crew report to the Command Post

1138 MB@3162 Progress Report, Risk Remains High, Patient Count 14, 10 Red Tag, 4 Green Tag, we need additional units all units on scene are being utilised if you have an available unit assign them require both BLS and ALS

1149 MB@3162 Progress Report, Risk Remains High, Patient Count 20, 16 Red Tag, 4 Green Tag, all units are being utilised please assign additional BLS and ALS units as many as you can provide, patients are coming out continuously, another Red Tag has just been brought out now

1150 MB@3162 Be advised a lot of the Red Tags are paediatrics and are in cardiac arrest

1159 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 24, 19 Red Tag, 5 Green Tag, We now have Conditions 18 as Secondary Staging, Conditions 17 in the MERV and Conditions 14 as Treatment

1159 Citywide Information from Hospital 23 they can handle two more patients and that’s it

1202 Car 5O Hospital tracking has been implemented, Conditions cars deployed to Hospitals 83, 23 and 25

1204 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 29, 22 Red Tag, 1 Orange Tag, 6 Green Tag, all civilians

1205 MB@3162 Please instruct LSU1 to bring as many BVMs as they have to the Command Post

1209 MB@3162 Progress Report, Fire operations ongoing, risk remains high, Patient Count 33, 28 Red Tag, 1 Orange Tag, 6 Green Tag, all units on scene are being utilised, please assign additional BLS and ALS units

1209 27C Place Hospital 23 on diversion they are by far maxed out they cannot handle anymore patients they are at capacity

1210 27R Any ALS units in the area bring their Cyno Kits to Hospital 23 for multiple paediatric patients

1211 (Unknown) I have 4 Cyno Kits I’m going to the Command Post right now

1211 14Z Responding with 3 Cyno Kits, dropping them at Hospital 23 and then continuing to the scene

1212 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 37, 30 Red Tags, 2 Orange Tags, 5 Green Tags, all incoming units come directly to the front of the building, bring all your BVMs and SKEDs to the Command Post

1218 27R (and multiple other units) responding back to the scene after transporting their patient to the hospital

1220 14A Departing Station 14 for the MCI with additional BVMs, Oxygen, SKEDs and other equipment onboard

1224 Citywide All units already assigned to a job please continue to your current assignment, do not release to attend the MCI

1228 27R No more ambulances to Hospital 83, there’s no where to park and they’re out of beds, we have units parking on Third Avenue

1231 Citywide to Conditions 16 you’re required at Hospital 17 and then Hospital 16 for Patient Tracking

1237 CW to MB@3162 Do you need a second MERV?
MB - If you have another available send it
CW - MERV9 coming to you now

1242 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 54, 32 Red Tag, 3 Orange Tag, 19 Green Tag

1242 27C Have Cyno Kits on board headed to Hospital 83

1244 MB@3162 Progress Report Patient Count 54, 32 Red Tag, 3 Orange Tag, 19 Green Tag, Car 5 now Medical Branch Director,

1253 MB@3162 Progress Report, risk remains high, Patient Count remains 54, Car 562 is ? Group Leader, under them is Conditions 17 Tracking Officer, Conditions 18 Staging Officer, Car 522 is Treatment Group Leader, under them is Conditions 19 and Conditions 14, we have Conditions 26 as Rehab Officer, HazTac 1 and HazTac 3 as Rescue Group, Car 5 is Medical Branch Leader, Car 5C is Deputy Medical Branch Leader

1256 MB@3162 No further Cyno Kits needed at this time

1312 MB@3162 Progress Report, Patient Count 60, 59 Civilians, 1 Orange Tag Firefighter

1412 MB@3162 Progress Report, Risk Low, Total Patient Count will be 66, 32 Red Tag, 10 Orange Tag Civilians, 1 Orange Tag Firefighter, 20 Green Tag Civilians, 4 Green Tag Firefighters, we are in the process of de escalation, units will call you when available, we also have 6 RMAs with 5 Mary
Well that was horrible to read. Strong work by the members on a terrible day.
 
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Thank you to ALL of the Members here who have contributed to this very tragic story.

A Very Special Thanks to all of the FDNY members, the FDNY/EMS members, NYPD members, and behind the scene - the 911 and FDNY Dispatchers for the extremely difficult job they all did.
 
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This fatal fire took place within 1 1/2 miles (walking distance) of some of NYCs other very serious fatal fires.

On August 21, 1988, only about 1 1/4 miles away from this fire was the illegal "El Hoya social club" fire, located at 1748 Jerome Ave, corner of East 175th St.
That fire took the lives of 7 individuals

Then on March 25, 1990, only 1 1/2 miles away from this apartment building fire was another illegal social club fire which took the lives of 87 people.
That social club, called "Happyland" was located at 1956 Southern Blvd near East Tremont Ave
 
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This fatal fire took place within 1 1/2 miles (walking distance) of some of NYCs other very serious fatal fires.

On August 21, 1988, only about 1 1/4 miles away from this fire was the illegal "El Hoya social club" fire, located at 1748 Jerome Ave, corner of East 175th St.
That fire took the lives of 7 individuals

Then on March 25, 1990, only 1 1/2 miles away from this apartment building fire was another illegal social club fire which took the lives of 87 people.
That social club, called "Happyland" was located at 1956 Southern Blvd near East Tremont Ave

Only 1.3 miles away from 2017 Box 3303 that had very similar situation occur with an open door in a MD. Over a dozen lost their lives.
 
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