11/26/23 Staten Island 10-75 Box 0678

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Address: 28 Jackson Ave. off Cedar Ave.

Fire in the basement of a 2 story 20x50 PD

B-21: 10-75 - 16:57

L-78 FAST

B-21: Fire in the cellar - 1 L/S/O - 17:00

B-21: 3 L/S, 2 L/O - DWH - 17:05

D-8: Special call another truck (L-83) - PWH - 17:16

Maybe:
E-161, 159, 153, 152
L-81, 77, 78F, 83 s/c
B-21, 22
R-5
SQ-8
D-8
RAC-5

*E-152 initially unavailable, E-160 at another box

Relocations:
E-157 to SQ-8
L-168 to L-78
B-42 to B-21
B-48 to B-22
 
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Generally it wouldn't make such a big difference, in this case it would potentially mean turning out a Brooklyn company with the Satellite. (Given that both E-159 & E-152 were on the box)
 
Signal73 said:
Question for the class

3 L/S 2 in Opp. And no All Hands?

What would classify as using All Hands?
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I’m not sure, but I would think the All-Hands might initiate more coverage being that, in theory, they may be tied up longer. A 10-75 may be wrapped up quickly and perhaps only one or two units are relocated.
 
Usually once an extra engine and truck are called the dispatcher will transmit the all hands
sometimes also once the report is given of a second line being stretched a dispatcher will drop the hint "wanna go with the all hands?"

these days the all hands only gives you the satellite on top of the assignment i believe and im sure if something sounds legit 159 is starting to roll before getting the ticket
 
Extra One & One said:
I’m not sure, but I would think the All-Hands might initiate more coverage being that, in theory, they may be tied up longer. A 10-75 may be wrapped up quickly and perhaps only one or two units are relocated.
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FDNY defines an "ALL HANDS" as either 3 engines & 2 ladders OR 2 Engines & 2 Ladders & a Squad at work. In this case with a box on the VZ bridge Rescue 5 would be on the road (10-8). So seeing that this was not the normal response of E-161 (0.2 miles), E-152 (1.3 miles), E160 (1.7 miles), E-159 (2.3 miles), if 159 was dispatched the unit might have told the dispatcher, "We are near there" & then was assigned. E-159 shows normally responding with Sat 5 on that box. So who operated the extra line? How about Rescue 5 & that is why the All Hands was never transmitted. How is that for an answer? The normal response for that box should be 161 - 152 - 160 - & 153 (2.6 miles) .

Question for the class
Signal73 said:
3 L/S 2 in Opp. And no All Hands?

What would classify as using All Hands?
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Here is a question not particular to SI, but FDNY across all the boroughs. Of course many factors go into this (other activity, weather conditions, distance).

When a 10-75 is transmitted, dispatch moves up some companies to fill the hole created by the 4 closest engines & 3 closest ladders now being tied up. If the fire goes to an All-Hands 15 minutes later, is a more detailed or comprehensive coverage plan usually done? Or what was moved for coverage on the 10-75 sufficient?
 
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