12/18/25 Bronx 5th Alarm Box 2326

Why is this not a 6th or even 7th Alarm? Where is the "New" Super Pumper? Holding off actually a fire going above a 5th Alarm is bad because it causes the statistics to be wrong. Inaccurate statistics can cause FDNY unit to be disbanded. Once again if the "New" Super Pumper is not for fire such as this what is it for? I just don't know what the FDNY Command staff is thinking. Someday this lack of truth will come back to haunt the "Let's not let this go above a 5th" thinking. I know the dispatch system is now computer generated but that is a programming decision not truly what is best for the FDNY and its members. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
 
So have they used the new "super pumper" on anything ?.Hey Capt what size mobile hand lines does FDNY use other than 1 3/4. I can't tell if there mobile 2" or 2 1/2"
 
captaindewey50267021@gm said:
Why is this not a 6th or even 7th Alarm? Where is the "New" Super Pumper? Holding off actually a fire going above a 5th Alarm is bad because it causes the statistics to be wrong. Inaccurate statistics can cause FDNY unit to be disbanded. Once again if the "New" Super Pumper is not for fire such as this what is it for? I just don't know what the FDNY Command staff is thinking. Someday this lack of truth will come back to haunt the "Let's not let this go above a 5th" thinking. I know the dispatch system is now computer generated but that is a programming decision not truly what is best for the FDNY and its members. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
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I'm no firefighter, just a buff. The fact that this was purchased, toook 2-3 years to get in service ,then sit is a disservice. This isn't some prized 57 Chevy. It's almost them saying we don't have a real use for it.I think the higher ups want this to fail
 
How many times must it be explained that the super pumper is essentially a HAZMAT/foam resource and not a necessarily a "big fire" resource in the same way the previous version was? Fine to say it was a waste of money or whatever but do not act surprised that it hasn't been assigned to every 5th alarm. The department set out clear protocols on when it will be called (largely for foam jobs) and furthermore when you look at the specs, it is a simple 5000GPM industrial foam engine - in the day of 2000gpm front-line engines and 50,000gpm fire boats it will not ever be primarily used as a "big water" resource. This has been explained numerous times on this site.
 
HFN01 said:
How many times must it be explained that the super pumper is essentially a HAZMAT/foam resource and not a necessarily a "big fire" resource in the same way the previous version was? Fine to say it was a waste of money or whatever but do not act surprised that it hasn't been assigned to every 5th alarm. The department set out clear protocols on when it will be called (largely for foam jobs) and furthermore when you look at the specs, it is a simple 5000GPM industrial foam engine - in the day of 2000gpm front-line engines and 50,000gpm fire boats it will not ever be primarily used as a "big water" resource. This has been explained numerous times on this site.
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And you need to be near the water to supply that kind of water. The hydrants are definitely not supplying that. Like you say, that rig is primarily for foam/hazmat situations.
 
HFN01 said:
How many times must it be explained that the super pumper is essentially a HAZMAT/foam resource and not a necessarily a "big fire" resource in the same way the previous version was? Fine to say it was a waste of money or whatever but do not act surprised that it hasn't been assigned to every 5th alarm. The department set out clear protocols on when it will be called (largely for foam jobs) and furthermore when you look at the specs, it is a simple 5000GPM industrial foam engine - in the day of 2000gpm front-line engines and 50,000gpm fire boats it will not ever be primarily used as a "big water" resource. This has been explained numerous times on this site.
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it would still be nice to see the poor thing get used already :cry:
 
HFN01 said:
How many times must it be explained that the super pumper is essentially a HAZMAT/foam resource and not a necessarily a "big fire" resource in the same way the previous version was? Fine to say it was a waste of money or whatever but do not act surprised that it hasn't been assigned to every 5th alarm. The department set out clear protocols on when it will be called (largely for foam jobs) and furthermore when you look at the specs, it is a simple 5000GPM industrial foam engine - in the day of 2000gpm front-line engines and 50,000gpm fire boats it will not ever be primarily used as a "big water" resource. This has been explained numerous times on this site.
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And the current super pumper was purchased with federal grant money, so downtown dosent care about justification numbers. It’s just another foam resource. As explained by HFN. Designating it as super pumper was a big mistake. Should have designated it something else. Eg. Foam 1, Mega Foam, HydroChem 1, Hi Volume 1, or even reuse the old Maxiwater designation.
 
Having watched the excellent video footage, what exactly what does the Chief Fire Inspector do? Seems to wander around the fire ground with no other command chiefs with him.
 
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