All Hands vs All Hands Under Control

jlab

jlab

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What is the difference between the above two terms ? What is the difference between a plain old 10-75 and an All Hands under control ?
 
A 10-75 is a request for additional resources.
Just because they transmit a 10-75 does not mean they’ll use all hands


All hands is 3 engines(or 2 engines and a squad operating as an engine) and 2 trucks operating.

All hands Doubtful gets the balance of the Assignment.
 
Extra One & One said:
Just so I have this straight, I believe they can skip a 10-75 for whatever reason and once they say "all-hands" they get the balance of the assignment. It doesn't necessarily have to be doubtful to fill out the assignment. Is that correct?
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All-Hands doesn't just pertain to 10-75s, it can also be used on other signals. So I believe a individual signal must be given, not just the All-Hands.
 
8060rock said:
For fire purposes, if it is determined that a fire can be controlled with just 3 Engines/2 Ladders - a BC, without transmitting a 10-75 signal, may transmit an All Hands/Under Control - and unless otherwise requested no additional units will be assigned.
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Would that be the case for like a 10-22 or 10-27
 
I have had many jobs where i responded with 3 & 2 & on arrival not much showing so no 10-75....as operations proceeded i may have used the remaining Units (if needed) but had no need to give a 10-75 as i felt comfortable with the 3 & 2 but rather i gave an All Hands Under Control if they were all used giving them credit for their work.....relocations as needed were made by the Dispatcher for the Units used but no Special Units were dispatched to the scene.
 
68jk09 said:
I have had many jobs where i responded with 3 & 2 & on arrival not much showing so no 10-75....as operations proceeded i may have used the remaining Units (if needed) but had no need to give a 10-75 as i felt comfortable with the 3 & 2 but rather i gave an All Hands Under Control if they were all used giving them credit for their work.....relocations as needed were made by the Dispatcher for the Units used but no Special Units were dispatched to the scene.
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Chief, what would your final signal be on an incident like that?
 
If you go with 2 and 2 or 3 and 2 and these units are OK to control, contain and extinguish or remediate the situation then the BC can give All Hands no special units. If he goes with All Hands and saying nothing else then the dispatcher will have to fill out the box with the Fast truck Rescue Squad All Hands Chief and Deputy.
 
All Hands under control basically means you dont need more than your current assignment, and the fire or emergency isnt something that is determined to be spread or evolving above its current state.

Things like a burning joist in the walls with no active flame, or a compactor fire in a high rise are examples.
 
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