FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section

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Understanding the complex history of the Marine Division.

Matching the boat, to the company, to the berth, to the time frame.

Compliments to Mack for his incredibly detailed company histories.
Complements to his posts with additional information to present the history in different ways.

COMPANIES OF THE MARINE DIVISION

              TIME LINE
Engine 43   Organized 1875

Engine 51   Organized 1883

Engine 223 Organized   1886  Brooklyn Engine 23

Engine 57   Organized 1891

Engine 232 Organized   1893  Brooklyn Engine 32

Engine 66  Organized 1898

Engine 43   Disbanded 1901

Engine 77   Organized 1903

Engine 78   Organized 1904

Engine 85   Organized 1908

Engine 86   Organized 1908

Engine 87   Organized 1908

Engine 51   Disbanded 1934

Engine 51   Reorganized 1938

Engine 51    Disbanded 1948

Engine 66   Disbanded 1949

Engine 51   Reorganized 1949

Engine 87   Disbanded 1954

Engine 66   Reorganized 1954

Engine 66   Disbanded 1955

Engine 66    Reorganized  1958

Engine 77   Disbanded 1958

Engine 232  Disbanded      1959

Engine 51   Redesignated as Marine 9 1959
Engine 57    Redesignated as Marine 1 1959
Engine 66    Redesignated  as Marine 6    1959
Engine 77   Redesignated as Marine 7 1959
Engine 78   Redesignated as Marine 5 1959
Engine 85   Redesignated as Marine 3 1959
Engine 86   Redesignated as Marine 2 1959
Engine 223 Redesignated as Marine 8 1959

Marine  1 Organized 1959
Marine  2 Organized 1959
Marine  3 Organized 1959
Marine  5 Organized 1959
Marine  6 Organized 1959
Marine  7 Organized 1959
Marine  8 Organized 1959
Marine  9 Organized 1959

Marine 4 Organized 1962

Marine 3 Disbanded 1966

Marine 7 Disbanded 1970
Marine 8 Disbanded 1970

Marine 4 Disbanded 1971

Marine 5 Disbanded 1976

Marine 2 Disbanded 1991

 
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Understanding the complex history of the Marine Division.

Matching the boat, to the company, to the berth, to the time frame.

Compliments to Mack for his incredibly detailed company histories.
Complements to his posts with additional information to present the history in different ways.

MATCHING THE BERTHS TO THE BOATS

Berth Pike St Dock, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1875

Berth Pier 40, Pike St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1877

Station Pier 1 (new), North River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1879
Engine 57 1891
Marine 1   1959

Temporary Foot of Clinton St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1883

Berth Foot of W 13th St, Gansevoort St, North River, Manhattan
Engine 51 1884
Engine 77 1903
Engine 78 1904
Engine 86 1908

Berth Foot of Furman St, Harbeck Stores Dock, East River, Brooklyn
Brooklyn Engine 23 1886

Station Foot of Bloomfield St, North River, Manhattan
Engine 51 1892
Engine 86 1910
Marine 3   1961

Berth Foot of N 8th St, East River, Brooklyn
Brooklyn Engine 32 1893
Engine 51 1916

Temporary Foot of E 3rd St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1894

Temporary Foot of E 5th St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1895

Berth Pier 55, Grand St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 51 1883
Engine 43 1893
Engine 66 1898

Station Foot of Grand St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 66 1932
Engine 87 1952
Marine 6   1959

Berth Foot of E 99th St, Harlem River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1898
Engine 51 1903
Engine 78 1908

Berth Foot of Main St, East River, Brooklyn
Brooklyn Engine 23 1899
Engine 77   1904
Engine 223 1913

Temporary Foot of 42nd St, New York Bay, Brooklyn
Engine 123 1904

Berth Foot of W 35th St, North River, Manhattan
Engine 85 1908
Marine 3   1959

Berth Saint George Ferry Terminal, Staten Island
Engine 51 1908

Station Slip 8, St George Ferry Terminal, Staten Island
Marine 9   1967

Berth Foot of E 135th St, Harlem River, Manhattan
Engine 87 1908

Station Foot of E 135th St, Harlem River, Manhattan
Engine 87 1922

Berth Foot of Beekman St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 77 1911

Berth Foot of 38th St, New York Bay, Brooklyn
Engine 223 1915

Station Foot of 38th St, New York Bay, Brooklyn
Engine 223 1932
Marine 8   1959

Temporary Seaside Landing, Far Rockaway, Queens
Engine 77 1922

Berth Foot of Hyatt St, Staten Island
Engine 77 1922
Engine 51 1922

Station Foot of Noble St, East River, Brooklyn
Engine 232 1922

Station Foot of E 90th St, Harlem River, Manhattan
Engine 78 1930
Marine 5   1959

Station Foot of Fulton St, East River, Brooklyn
Engine 77   1931
Marine 7   1959

Station Pier 6, Foot of Hannah St, Staten Island
Engine 51 1947
Marine 9   1959

Station Pier 53, Foot of Bloomfield St, North River, Manhattan
Engine 86 1933
Marine 2   1959
Marine 1   1992

Station Pier 53, Foot of Bloomfield St, North River, Manhattan
Marine 1   2011

Station Pier A, North River, Manhattan
Marine 1   1960

Station Foot of 52nd St, New York Bay, Brooklyn
Marine 8 1962
Marine 9   1976

Berth Foot of 154th Pl, East River, Queens
Marine 4   1962

Berth Army Pier 605, Fort Totten, Queens
Marine 4   1963

Station Bldg 292, Brooklyn Navy Yard, Brooklyn
Marine 6   1992

Station 335 Front St, Staten Island
Marine 9   1997

Temporary 353 West St, Pier 40, North River, Manhattan
Marine 1   2008

Station 355 Front St, Homeport Pier, Stapleton Waterfront, SI
Marine 9   2012
 
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Understanding the complex history of the Marine Division.

Matching the boat, to the company, to the berth, to the time frame.

Compliments to Mack for his incredibly detailed company histories.
Complements to his posts with additional information to present the history in different ways.

MATCHING THE COMPANIES TO THE BOATS

Engine 43
William F Havemeyer   1875 to 1901

Engine 51
Zophar Mills                 1883 to 1934
William L Strong           1938 to 1948
George B McClellan       1949 to 1953
Cornelius W Lawrence 1953 to 1954
William J Gaynor           1954 to 1958
H Sylvia AHG Wilks       1958 to 1959

Engine 57
The New Yorker         1891 to 1922
John Purroy Mitchel   1922 to 1931
John J Harvey             1931 to 1938
Firefighter                 1938 to 1955
John D McKean           1955 to 1959

Engine 66
William L Strong           1898 to 1938
George B McClellan       1938 to 1949
Cornelius W Lawrence 1954 to 1955
  Harry M Archer MD          1958  to  1959

Engine 77
Abram S Hewitt         1903 to 1922
The New Yorker         1922 to 1931
Abram S Hewitt         1931 to 1958
William J Gaynor       1958 to 1961

Engine 78
George B McClellan         1904 to 1938
Thomas Willett               1938 to 1959

Engine 85
James Duane                 1908 to 1959

Engine 86
Thomas Willett               1908 to 1938
John J Harvey                 1938 to 1959

Engine 87
Cornelius W Lawrence 1908 to 1954

Engine 223
  Seth Low                   1886 to 1914
William J Gaynor         1916 to 1954
Firefighter                   1955 to 1959

Engine 232
David A Boody           1893 to 1914
Abram S Hewitt         1922 to 1931
John Purroy Mitchel   1931 to 1959

Marine 1
John D McKean           1959 to 2010
Fireboat 343               2010 to

Marine 2
John J Harvey         1959 to 1991

Marine 3
James Duane         1959 to 1959
John Purroy Mitchel 1959 to 1966

Marine 4
John H Glenn Jr     1962 to 1971

Marine 5
John Purroy Mitchel           1959 to 1961
Senator Robert F Wagner 1961 1976

Marine 6
Harry M Archer MD   1959 to 1992
Kevin C Kane           1992 to 2011
The Bravest           2011

Marine 6-2
Alfred E Ronaldson 1993 to 1994
William M Feehan   2015

Marine 7
Senator Robert F Wagner 1959 to 1961
H Sylvia AHG Wilks             1961 to 1970

Marine 8
Firefighter                     1959 to 1961
Governor Alfred E Smith 1961 to 1970

Marine 9
H Sylvia AHG Wilks 1959 to 1961
Firefighter             1961 to 2010
Firefighter II           2010

 
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Understanding the complex history of the Marine Division.

Matching the boat, to the company, to the berth, to the time frame.

Compliments to Mack for his incredibly detailed company histories.
Complements to his posts with additional information to present the history in different ways.

MATCHING THE BOATS TO THEIR ASSIGNMENTS

William F Havemeyer Assigned Engine 43 1875 to 1901

Zophar Mills               Assigned Engine 51 1883 to 1934

Seth Low                   Assigned Engine 23 Brooklyn FD 1886 to 1914

The New Yorker         Assigned Engine 57 1891 to 1922
                                Assigned Engine 77 1922 to 1931

David A Boody           Assigned Engine 32 Brooklyn FD 1893 to 1914

William L Strong       Assigned Engine 66 1898 to 1938
                                Assigned Engine 51 1938 to 1948

Abram S Hewitt         Assigned Engine 77 1903 to 1922
                                Assigned Engine 232 1922 to 1931
                                Assigned Engine 77 1931 to 1958

George B McClellan   Assigned Engine 78 1904 to 1938
                                Assigned Engine 66 1938 to 1949
                                Assigned Engine 51 1949 to 1953

James Duane           Assigned Engine 85 1908 to 1959
                                Redesignated Marine 3 1959 to 1959
                                Assigned Marine 8 1959 to 1961

Thomas Willett Assigned Engine 86 1908 to 1938
                                Assigned Engine 78 1938 to 1959

Cornelius W Lawrence Assigned Engine 87 1908 to 1953
                                Assigned Engine 51 1953 to 1954
                                Assigned Engine 66 1954 to 1955

William J Gaynor       Assigned Engine 223 1916 to 1954
                                Assigned Engine 51 1954 to 1958
                                Assigned Engine 77 1958 to 1959

John Purroy Mitchel   Assigned Engine 57 1922 to 1931
                                Assigned Engine 232 1931 to 1959
                                Assigned Marine 5 1959 to 1959
                                Assigned Marine 3 1959 to 1966

John J Harvey           Assigned Engine 57 1931 to 1938
                                Assigned Engine 86 1938 to 1959
                                Redesignated as Marine 2 1959 to 1991

Firefighter               Assigned Engine 57 1938 to 1955
                              Assigned Engine 223 1955 to 1959
                              Redesignated Marine 8 1959 to 1959
                              Assigned Marine 5 1959 to 1961
                              Assigned Marine 9 1961 to 2010

John D McKean       Assigned Engine 57 1955 to 1959
                              Redesignated as Marine 1 1959 to 2010

H Sylvia AHG Wilks Assigned Engine 51 1958 to 1959
                              Redesignated as Marine 9 1959 to 1961
                              Assigned Marine 7 1961 to 1970

Harry M Archer MD Assigned Engine 66 1958 to 1959
                            Redesignated as Marine 6 1959 to 1992

Senator Robert F Wagner Assigned Marine 7 1959 to 1961
                              Assigned Marine 5 1961 to 1976

Governor Alfred E Smith Assigned Marine 8 1961 to 1970

John H Glenn Jr       Assigned Marine 4 1962 to 1971

Kevin C Kane         Assigned Marine 6 1992 to 2011

Alfred E Ronaldson Assigned Marine 6-2 1993 to 1994

John P Devaney     Assigned  Marine 9 1993 to 1994

Fireboat 343         Assigned Marine 1 2010 to

Firefighter II         Assigned Marine 9 2010 to

The Bravest         Assigned Marine 6 2011 to

William M Feehan Assigned Marine 6-2 2015 to

 
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mack said:
scoobyd said:
Don't forget the squirt!


A Squirt operating at a 1970s Manhattan multiple:

   

In the above photo of the articulating squirt operating, I believe that was originally assigned to Engine 71, then was reassigned to Engine 43.

There was also another squirt, I think assigned to Engine 70. That was a tele squirt which had a straight ladder similar to a rear mount small aerial ladder. I think it might have been about 55 feet or so.

I remember taking pictures of both rigs that might have been posted (?) on "flicker" by "R1smokeeater", Jamie of Yonkers FD, some time ago.
 
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The Squrts were originally assigned to E-71 and E-310. 71's rig was handed down to E-68 and then E-43. That rig had the articulated boom replaced with a Tele-Squrt boom and was reassigned to E-70.
 

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fdhistorian said:
Understanding the complex history of the Marine Division.

Matching the boat, to the company, to the berth, to the time frame.

Compliments to Mack for his incredibly detailed company histories.
Complements to his posts with additional information to present the history in different ways.

MATCHING THE BERTHS TO THE BOATS

Berth Pike St Dock, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1875

Berth Pier 40, Pike St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1877

Station Pier 1 (new), North River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1879
Engine 57 1891
Marine 1   1959

Temporary Foot of Clinton St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1883

Berth Foot of W 13th St, Gansevoort St, North River, Manhattan
Engine 51 1884
Engine 77 1903
Engine 78 1904
Engine 86 1908

Berth Foot of Furman St, Harbeck Stores Dock, East River, Brooklyn
Brooklyn Engine 23 1886

Station Foot of Bloomfield St, North River, Manhattan
Engine 51 1892
Engine 86 1910
Marine 3   1961

Berth Foot of N 8th St, East River, Brooklyn
Brooklyn Engine 32 1893
Engine 51 1916

Temporary Foot of E 3rd St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1894

Temporary Foot of E 5th St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1895

Berth Pier 55, Grand St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1893
Engine 51 1883
Engine 66 1898

Station Foot of Grand St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 66 1932
Engine 87 1952
Marine 6   1959

Berth Foot of E 99th St, Harlem River, Manhattan
Engine 43 1898
Engine 51 1903
Engine 78 1908

Berth Foot of Main St, East River, Brooklyn
Brooklyn Engine 23 1899
Engine 77   1904
Engine 223 1913

Temporary Foot of 42nd St, New York Bay, Brooklyn
Engine 123 1904

Berth Foot of W 35th St, North River, Manhattan
Engine 85 1908
Marine 3   1959

Berth Saint George Ferry Terminal, Staten Island
Engine 51 1908

Station Slip 8, St George Ferry Terminal, Staten Island
Marine 9   1967

Berth Foot of E 135th St, Harlem River, Manhattan
Engine 87 1908

Station Foot of E 135th St, Harlem River, Manhattan
Engine 87 1922

Berth Foot of Beekman St, East River, Manhattan
Engine 77 1911

Berth Foot of 38th St, New York Bay, Brooklyn
Engine 223 1915

Station Foot of 38th St, New York Bay, Brooklyn
Engine 223 1932
Marine 8   1959

Temporary Seaside Landing, Far Rockaway, Queens
Engine 77 1922

Berth Foot of Hyatt St, Staten Island
Engine 77 1922
Engine 51 1922

Station Foot of Noble St, East River, Brooklyn
Engine 232 1922

Station Foot of E 90th St, Harlem River, Manhattan
Engine 78 1930
Marine 5   1959

Station Foot of Fulton St, East River, Brooklyn
Engine 77   1931
Engine 232 1958
Marine 7   1959

Station Pier 6, Foot of Hannah St, Staten Island
Engine 51 1947
Marine 9   1959

Station Pier 53, Foot of Bloomfield St, North River, Manhattan
Engine 86 1933
Marine 2   1959
Marine 1   1992

Station Pier 53, Foot of Bloomfield St, North River, Manhattan
Marine 1   2011

Station Pier A, North River, Manhattan
Marine 1   1960

Station Foot of 52nd St, New York Bay, Brooklyn
Marine 8 1962
Marine 9   1976

Berth Foot of 154th Pl, East River, Queens
Marine 4   1962

Berth Army Pier 605, Fort Totten, Queens
Marine 4   1963

Station Bldg 292, Brooklyn Navy Yard, Brooklyn
Marine 6   1992

Station 335 Front St, Staten Island
Marine 9   1997

Temporary 353 West St, Pier 40, North River, Manhattan
Marine 1   2008

Station 355 Front St, Homeport Pier, Stapleton Waterfront, SI
Marine 9   2012

Terrific history!  FDNY Marine Division has a proud history, very important to NYC - and also difficult to understand.  It includes FDNY and City of Brooklyn fireboats, many fireboats, organization changes, location changes, wartime changes and re-numbering.  Many Marine members were awarded medals for bravery and several have died in the line of duty.  Thanks fdhistorian.  Excellent histories, 
 
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1261Truckie said:
The Squrts were originally assigned to E-71 and E-310. 71's rig was handed down to E-68 and then E-43. That rig had the articulated boom replaced with a Tele-Squrt boom and was reassigned to E-70.

Thank you "1261Truckie", aka Jimmy B., on that information as well.
 
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There were two Squrts with #MS7001 originally assigned to E310 and remained there until around 1975-76. In 1980 it was converted into a Foam Squrt and assigned to Staten Island, first with E160 then with E154. The second Squrt was #MS7002, was originally assigned to E71 but E71 was too busy. Around late 1972 to early 1973 it was reassigned it E68 with E71 getting E68's 1971 Mack CF. In 1974 it was sent to E43 where it remained until 1976. It was then converted into a 50ft. Telesqurt and assigned to E70 on City Island where it served as E70's 2nd pc. until Ladder 53 was reorganized in 1986.
 
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guitarman314 said:
There were two Squrts with #MS7001 originally assigned to E310 and remained there until around 1975-76. In 1980 it was converted into a Foam Squrt and assigned to Staten Island, first with E160 then with E154. The second Squrt was #MS7002, was originally assigned to E71 but E71 was too busy. Around late 1972 to early 1973 it was reassigned it E68 with E71 getting E68's 1971 Mack CF. In 1974 it was sent to E43 where it remained until 1976. It was then converted into a 50ft. Telesqurt and assigned to E70 on City Island where it served as E70's 2nd pc. until Ladder 53 was reorganized in 1986.

Thank you as well "G-man", Tom E. I appreciate that.
 

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guitarman314 said:
There were two Squrts with #MS7001 originally assigned to E310 and remained there until around 1975-76. In 1980 it was converted into a Foam Squrt and assigned to Staten Island, first with E160 then with E154. The second Squrt was #MS7002, was originally assigned to E71 but E71 was too busy. Around late 1972 to early 1973 it was reassigned it E68 with E71 getting E68's 1971 Mack CF. In 1974 it was sent to E43 where it remained until 1976. It was then converted into a 50ft. Telesqurt and assigned to E70 on City Island where it served as E70's 2nd pc. until Ladder 53 was reorganized in 1986.


Engine 71 Squirt:

   


Engine 310 Squirt:

   


Engine 160/Engine 154 Foam Squirt - 1980s:

   
 

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Picture illustrates two limitations of Squirt:

    - reduced hose capacity
    - limited operator vision compared to tower ladder

   

 

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nfd2004 said:
mack said:
scoobyd said:
Don't forget the squirt!


A Squirt operating at a 1970s Manhattan multiple:

   

In the above photo of the articulating squirt operating, I believe that was originally assigned to Engine 71, then was reassigned to Engine 43.

There was also another squirt, I think assigned to Engine 70. That was a tele squirt which had a straight ladder similar to a rear mount small aerial ladder. I think it might have been about 55 feet or so.

I remember taking pictures of both rigs that might have been posted (?) on "flicker" by "R1smokeeater", Jamie of Yonkers FD, some time ago.


Engine 70 - 2nd piece Squirt:

   

   

Engine 70  - 1st piece ALF pumper:

   


    - Thank you Bill.
 

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Engine 232 (Marine)  Williamsburg, Brooklyn          BECAME MARINE 6

    Engine 32 Brooklyn Fire Department organized foot of 8th Street East River                                        1893
    Engine 32 Brooklyn Fire Department became Engine 32 FDNY                                                            1898
    Engine 32 became Engine 132                                                                                                          1899
    Engine 132 became Engine 232                                                                                                        1913
    Engine 232 disbanded                                                                                                                      1914
    Engine 232 reorganized foot of 8th Street East River                                                                          1915
    Engine 232 new quarters foot of Nobel Street, East River                                                                    1922
    Engine 232 disbanded to form Marine 6                                                                                            1959   


Engine 23 BFD/Engine 232 FDNY fireboats:

    "David A. Boody"                            1893-1914
    "Abram S. Hewitt"                            1922-1931
    "John Purroy Mitchel"                      1931-1959

          -thanks fdhistorian

    "David A. Boody" fireboat: 

          1893-1914
          105' x 23' x 7'
          6500 GPM
          Built by W. Cowles at Noank, Connecticut
          Wooden hull
          Coal and steam powered
 
         

         

         

         

         


    "Abram S. Hewitt" fireboat

          1922-1931
          117' x 24' x 10'6"
          7000 GPM
          Designed by H Parsons
          Built by the New York Ship Building Company at Camden, NJ
          Steel hull
          Coal fired
          3 deck pipes
          12 discharges

         

         

         

         

         


    "John Purroy Mitchel" fireboat

          1931-1959
          132' x 27' x 10' 
          9,000 GPM
          Built by Standard Shipbuilding Company, Shooters Island, NY
          Oil powered
          Steam turbine driven pumps

         

         

         

         

         

         


Engine 232 Medals:

    JOHN J. BECKER FF. ENG. 232 DEC. 7, 1941 1942 BROOKLYN CITIZENS

          Rescued drowning man in frigid East River at extreme personal risk.

         

         

    THOMAS J. LOUGHLIN CAPT. ENG. 232 1941 1942 STEPHENSON

          Captain of most efficient and best disciplined fire company.

         


LODD:

    FIREFIGHTER, PETER ENGEL, ENGINE 232, January 5, 1950.

          FF Peter Engel, a 36 year veteran firefighter, died in the performance of his duties.

         


    RIP. Never forget.

 

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1981 FDNY - Manhattan:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RZxTcEzDcA&t=7s


Note - FDNY first minute of video
 

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Engine 85 (Marine)  Manhattan                        BECAME MARINE 3

    Engine 85 organized foot of W. 35th Street Hudson River                                          1908
    Engine 85 disbanded to form Marine 3                                                                    1959


Engine 85 fireboat:

    "James Duane"                                 

          1908-1959
          132' x 28' x 10'
          9000 GPM
          Built by Alexander Miller & Bros, Jersey City, NJ
          Coal fired team turbine driven centrifugal pumps
          4 deck pipes
          Tower mast
          Capable of 14 knots.


         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         
 
         

         

         

         

         


New York Fireboat ?James Duane? Tested:

    FIRE ENGINEERING 10/04/1922

          "New York Fireboat ?James Duane? Tested

         

          The performance of the New York fireboat ?James Duane? during her recent official tests indicated that she will be one of the most efficient fire fighters afloat. Under the most exacting conditions she exceeded the expectations of the engineers and demonstrated her ability to handle more water per minute than the guarantees called for.

          The tests were held at the Clinton plant of the Todd Shipyards Corporation, where new turbines and pumps have just been installed, in the presence of the Fire Commissioner Thomas Drennan and other officials from the fire department and the National Board of Fire Underwriters. The new pumps are Lee-Courtney centrifugal single-stage, double-suction, driven by Westinghouse steam turbines. Against a nozzle pressure of 150 pounds, the pumps discharged 9,800 gallons of water per minute; against a nozzle pressure of 175 pounds, the pumps delivered 7,900 gallons per minute, and against a nozzle pressure of 300 pounds, the pumps delivered 4,850 gallons of water per minute. The guarantee called for 9,000 gallons of water against a nozzle pressure of 150 pounds; 7,500 gallons of water against a nozzle pressure of 175 pounds; 3,000 gallons of water against a nozzle pressure of 300 pounds. Against a nozzle pressure of 90 pounds, from all appearances, the pumps would be able to deliver 12,000 gallons of water per minute, in case it was necessary to flood the hold of a ship.

          Those present at the tests, which lasted six hours, were: William H. Todd, George J. Robinson, Frank J. Taylor, J. Herbert Todd and William Robinson, of the Todd Shipyards Corporation; Commissioner Thomas Drennan, Chiefs E. J. Worth, B. Marshall, J. J. Henry, Herbert Tracy, Capt. S. Burns, Lieut. Geo. McNear and Fred Thompson,? of the fire department; J. H. Howland and N. M. Welpert of the National Board of Fire Underwriters; W. F. Meyer of the Lee-Courtney Pump Company; George Werley and Norris Sibley of the Westinghouse Electric Company.


Engine 85 members:

   

   

   

   


Engine 85 Medals:

    THOMAS J. KEHOE FF. ENG. 85 AUG. 29, 1938 1939 BROOKMAN

    THOMAS J. MALEY MAR. ENGINEER ENG. 85 MAY 5, 1951 1952 TREVOR-WARREN

    EDWARD B. MC ELROY, JR. FF. ENG. 85 AUG. 17, 1953 1954 KANE


Engine 85 LODD:

    ENGINEER JOHN D. MCKEAN ENGINE 85 September 22, 1953

         

         

          Marine Engineer John D. McKean of Engine 85 (fireboat James Duane) was detailed to Engine 51 (fireboat George B. McClellan) for a water display in New York Harbor. The display was for a group of state senators and assemblymen from Albany. A condenser in the engine room blew its top and scalded Engineer McKean. The fireboat McClellan was forty-nine years old and in sad shape. McKean died from his injuries in the Marine Hospital on Staten Island. He was born at Taunton, Massachusetts forty-three years before, was married and had two children. A fireboat was named in his memory in 1954 and was the boat for Marine 1 on the west side of Manhattan. (From "The Last Alarm")


    RIP.  Never forget.


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MARINE DIVISION HISTORY

Posts #439, #443, #460, #462 and #463 have been slightly revised.

The years prior to and immediately following the 1959 redesignation of Marine Engines as Marine companies had much activity among the boats and their stations.  In addition, four new boats were placed in service, two before redesignation, and two after.  One redesignation included a change of station and more boat movements.  Sorting out the movements requires a very detailed timeline, with more than one 'before and after' comparison.

Following all of the movements in sequence. . .
Engine 66 McClellan is moved to Engine 51 to replace the Strong in 1949.
Engine 87 Lawrence is moved to Engine 66's station in 1952.  Engine 66 had no boat since 1949.
Engine 51 McClellan suffers an explosion and is placed out of commission in 1953.
Engine 87 Lawrence is temporarily moved to Engine 51 to cover in 1953.
Engine 87 Lawrence is reassigned as Engine 66 in 1954 upon returning from covering Engine 51.
Engine 66 Lawrence taken out of service and Engine 66 is disbanded in 1955.
Engine 51 receives the new Wilks and Gaynor is reassigned to Engine 77 in 1958.  Gaynor was Engine 51 since 1954.
Engine 66 is reorganized with the new Archer late in 1958.

Marine Engines are redesignated as Marine companies in 1959

Six months later:
Marine 3 Duane is reassigned to Marine 8.
Marine 5 Mitchel is reassigned to Marine 3.
Marine 8 Firefighter is reassigned to Marine 5.
Marine 7 receives the new Wagner.

Marine 8 receives the new Smith and Firefighter moves to Marine 9 and Wilks moves to Marine 7 in 1961.

Marine 4, the new Glenn is organized in 1962.

 

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MARINE DIVISION HISTORY

Question to all:
Marine 6 was organized with Engine 232's boat, Mitchel, but in Engine 66's station.
Is Marine 6 the legacy of Engine 66 or the legacy of Engine 232?

I would guess Engine 66 (M). 
 

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Engine 87 (Marine)  Manhattan                    DISBANDED

    Engine 87 organized foot of 132n Street Harlem River                                  1908
    Engine 87 moved foot of 135th Street Harlem River                                      1922
    Engine 87 moved foot of Grand Street East River                                          1952
    Engine 87 disbanded                                                                                  1954


Engine 87 Quarters 135th Street Manhattan:

   

   

   

   


Engine 87 fireboat "Cornelius W. Lawrence"

    1908-1955
    104'6" x 23'6" x 9'
    7000 GPM
    Built by Alexander Miller & Bros, Jersey City, NJ
    Coal fired
    Steam turbine driven pumps
    Lower profile super structure
    No tower mast


FIRE ENGINEERING - FIREBOAT LAWRENCE LAUNCHED - 11/20/1907
   
    "FIREBOATS LAWRENCE LAUNCHED.

    On Tuesday, November 12, the Cornelius W. Lawrence, so-called after a former mayor of New York city, the latest addition to the fireboat fleet of New York was launched from the shipyard of Messrs. Alexander Miller & Bros., of Jersey City, at Newburgh, N. Y.? making with the Thomas Willett and James Duane, launched in April of this year and now being fitted with their pumping machinery, three new boats of that type, seven built this year and bringing the number of fireboats in this city up to ten. Those at present in commission are as follows: The Zophar Mills, the oldest of fireboats in service?she was built in 1882 and called after one of New York?s well-known citizens of a past generation and a member of the original volunteer fire department of the city; the New Yorker; the David Boodv; the William L. Strong; the Abram S. Hewitt; the George B. McClellan, and the Seth Low. Like the two newest boats, the Cornelius W. Lawrence will be fitted in New York. In Chief Croker?s automobile, driven by Chief Croker to Newburgh, were Mayor McClellan and Commissioner O?Brien. Commissioner Lantry, Mrs. Lantry and Mr. Fox went up in Commissioner Lantry?s machine. Those who went on the special were the following: William Willis and Frank O?Brien, secretaries to the mayor; Chief William Beggen; P. J. Graham; Captain John Fox; Alfred M. Downes, secretary of the department: Michael Healy, private secretary to the commissioner; J. J. O Rielly; John J. Seufert, the hero of the Roosevelt street fire; Peter J. Quigley; Battalion Chief Dr. Harry M. Archer. Mayor McClellan made a very nice address, in which he said that no scandals had ever besmirched the lire department of New York city during its long history, and it had never lost or deserved to lose the place which it has always had in the hearts of the citizens. He spoke of the advantages that would accrue to New York from its fireboat fleet, and said that during his term of office the number of fireboats had been almost doubled, each new b*oat being an improvement on the other. The boat was named by Miss Muriel Winthrop, a near and lineal descendant of Mayor Cornelius W. Lawrence. Her father, Egerton L. Winthrop, is president of the city's board of education. Among those on the platform was Benjamin McClung, mayor-elect of Newburgh, who was introduced to Mayor McClellan and stood by him during the ceremony. He was elected by the Democrats of Newburgh. A banquet followed the launching and the new boat was towed to Jersey City where she will receive her engines. The fireboats Thomas Willett and James Duane were the two launched in the spring. The length of each of these boats is 131 ft. On deck and 123 in water-line; breadth of hull 27 ft.; depth 14 ft. The engines, as will he those of the latest addition, are driven direct by turbines. The decks of the three are flush and always clear for action, the only things standing above the deck being the water tower aft, the pilothouse forward and the two turrets for hose connections. The engines of the Cornelius W. Lawrence will be of 375 horsepower.


   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   


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Death of Captain William McClintock, Engine 87, 1928:

          After completing a night tour at 9:00 a.m., Captain William McClintock left the fireboat Cornelius Lawrence at its mooring at the foot of East 99th Street to proceed home. On that day, the Lawrence had been relocated to the quarters of the fireboat George McClellan. As he approached the subway entrance on Lexington Avenue he was seem to stagger and fall. His good friend, Fire Department Medical Officer Dr. Harry M. Archer arrived at the scene with his ambulance but could do nothing. He was born in West Point, New York. He joined the Fire Department on July 15, 1901, was promoted to Engineer of Steamer on May 1, 1905, to Lieutenant on December 14, 1912 and finally Captain on June 16, 1919 and was assigned command of the fireboat Cornelius Lawrence. He was a member of the New York Firemen?s Cycle Club that was formed by Dr. Archer in 1899. (From "The Last Alarm")

 

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Engine 66 (Marine)  Manhattan                  DISBANDED

    Engine 66 organized foot of Grand Street East River              1898
    Engine 66 new quarters foot of Grand Street East River        1932
    Engine 66 new quarters foot of Grand Street East River        1941
    Engine 66 disbanded                                                          1955


Engine 66 quarters foot of Grand Street East River - 1932:

   


Engine 66 quarters foot of Grand Street East River - 1941:

   

   


Engine 66 former quarters foot of Grand Street East River - current:

   


Engine 66 fireboats:

    "Robert A VanWyck" (original name)
    1898
    100' x 24' x 12.6'
    6500 GPM
    Designed by H deB Parsons
    Built by J. H. Dialogue & Son
    Steel hull
    203 gross tons
    10 knots
    Coal fired

         

         

    "William L. Strong" (original name "Robert A. VanWyck")
    1898-1938
    100' x 24' x 12.6'
    6500 GPM
    Designed by H deB Parsons
    Built by J. H. Dialogue & Son
    Steel hull
    203 gross tons
    10 knots
    Coal fired

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

          "William L. Strong" members:

             


    "George B. McClellan"
    1938-1949
    117' x 24' x 9'6"
    7000 GPM
    Built by New York Shipping Co., Camden, NJ
    Steel hull
    Coal fired
    3 deck pipes
    16 discharges.

         

         


    "Cornelius W. Lawrence"
    1949-1953, 1954-1955
    104'6" x 23'6" x 9'
    7000 GPM
    Built by Alexander Miller & Bros, Jersey City, NJ
    Coal fired
    Steam turbine driven pumps
    Lower profile super structure
    No tower mast

   


Engine 66 LODDs:

    FIREFIGHTER JAMES J. FARRELL ENGINE 66 February 19, 1945

         

          FF James J Farrell, Engine 66 (FireBoat George B McClellan). US Army Air Corps. Fireman Farrell was killed with another flier on a training flight. They were based at Marana Army Airfield, north of Tucson, AZ. Both men were killed instantly when they struck a mountain.
         
         

    FIREFIGHTER JAMES E. LINEKIN ENGINE 66 May 27, 1966

         

          Fireman James E. Linekin of Engine 66 (Fireboat Harry M. Archer, MD) spent his whole career aboard the fireboats of the FDNY. He was appointed and assigned to Engine 232 on September 23, 1929. He retired on April 14, 1963 with a disability pension for injuries sustained in the line of duty. He died on May 27, 1966. He was sixty-two years old. No other information could be found on Fireman Linekin?s death. His name appears on the Memorial Wall at Headquarters. (From "The Last Alarm")

    RIP.  Never forget.

 
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