FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies

[guitarman314]

1962 International (from this site):

10 originally assigned to: 35, 53, 58, 59, 69, 73, 91, 94, 283 & 290

 

[guitarman314]

Thanks Raybrag. Looks like the city purchased 16 Ward LaFrance engines in 1960.

Squad 2's Firebrand when located at 659 Prospect Ave w/E 73/L 42/Bn 55:


FDNY Firebrand:


E 159 had a Firebrand in the 1960s.

16 originally assigned to: 40, 42, 46, 82, 159, 204, 209, 216, 217, 220, 235, 260, 278, 297, 298*, 325. (*E298's was destroyed along with L127's 1962 ALF in the 1967 Jamaica gas explosion)

 

[68jk09]

I think they were the only rigs the city purchased that had a full bench seat across the width of the unit. Commonly referred to back then as "the old mans seat."

  Yes the motor was bet the Off & Chauf you could get on one side of the bench area then get off on the other side...216s went to 331.

 

[lucky]

I don't know if I'm stretching it but the few '69 R model Macks also had a seat across behind the front seat.

 

[nfd2004]

I don't know if I'm stretching it but the few '69 R model Macks also had a seat across behind the front seat.

I think that's correct. If I remember those Mack Rs were Eng 38 (?) and Eng 305 (?)

 

[guitarman314]

I don't know if I'm stretching it but the few '69 R model Macks also had a seat across behind the front seat.

I think that's correct. If I remember those Mack Rs were Eng 38 (?) and Eng 305 (?)

  The five Mack R's originally went to: 38, 91-2, 209, 277, 303.  Re-assigned ones went to: 242, 305 & 324 a couple went to the Model Cities Salvage Units. One even wound up at the old Flushing Airport.

 

[fdce54]

From reading the original assignments for the Firebrands, the Internationals and the Mack Rs, they all went to busy companies. Was this an experiment to see how they would hold up or just giving the newest apparatus to the busy companies?

 

[raybrag]

Sure looks like those Mack Rs had rear bench seats.  And heavens to mergatroid, it's a Willy D pic!

 

[guitarman314]

From reading the original assignments for the Firebrands, the Internationals and the Mack Rs, they all went to busy companies. Was this an experiment to see how they would hold up or just giving the newest apparatus to the busy companies?

  I know it's yes with the Internationals (commercial chassis) and the Mack R's as they replaced 1950's WLF and '58-59 Mack C's. The WLF Firebrands no, because they replaced older 1936, '37, '41 & '44 Macks, 1939 & 1946 WLF and 1947 Macks & ALF's: E40('46WLF), E42('41M), E46('47M), E82('47M), E159('46WLF), E204('41M), E209('47ALF), E216('39WLF), E217('41M), E220('47ALF), E235('47M), E260('39 Ahrens-Fox), E278('47ALF), E297('41M), E298('39WLF), E325('41M).

 

[guitarman314]

From reading the original assignments for the Firebrands, the Internationals and the Mack Rs, they all went to busy companies. Was this an experiment to see how they would hold up or just giving the newest apparatus to the busy companies?

  1962 Internationals replaced: E35('53WLF), E53('58 M1000), E58('53WLF), E59('58 M750), E69('53WLF), E73('58M750), E91('53WLF), E94('58M750), E283('58M1000), E290('53WLF).

 

[guitarman314]

From reading the original assignments for the Firebrands, the Internationals and the Mack Rs, they all went to busy companies. Was this an experiment to see how they would hold up or just giving the newest apparatus to the busy companies?

1969 Mack R's replaced: E38('53WLF), E91-2('65M), E209('60WLF), E277('58M750), E303('52WLF).

 

[nfd2004]

Sure looks like those Mack Rs had rear bench seats.  And heavens to mergatroid, it's a Willy D pic!

Yes Ray, but if it wasn't for "r1smokeeater" doing all the work, which I think included resizing each one, NONE of them would have been posted. He did all the work for me. I have no idea how to do that stuff. (I guess just like "mikeindabronx". His wife puts all his pictures on his site, but Mike gets all the credit....."Sorry Mike").

Thanks Jamie.

 

[svd385]

These look a lot like the rig that 94 engine had when they had that fire in their quarters.  I believe it was totaled at that time.

  Engine 94 had a 1962 International that was burned up. Engine 294 also had a '62 Int. that burned during refueling severely injuring a firefighter. One of the E. Harlem engine co's. (not sure 35, 58 or 91) had an International that got caught under a building collapse in 1965 or '66 that totalled Ladder 40's 1963 Seagrave tiller. L-40 wound up getting L-119's 1960 Mack/Maxim and L119 got one of the 1961 Mack C 146 ft. High Ladder rearmounts.

thanks for the info, what caught my attention to that rig was the full width seat behind the cab.

 

[68jk09]

But the Mack R'rs  were different in the fact that the bench seat  faced forward & was part of the fully  enclosed cab .   

 

[guitarman314]

But the Mack R'rs  were different in the fact that the bench seats were only  partially enclosed. 

HOW? ???

 

[68jk09]

When SQ*1 was re-organized in BKLYN in 1977 they were assigned a '69 Mack R model.....it may have come from ENG*242 ?

 

[68jk09]

1969 MACK R ASSIGNED TO SALVAGE 4 PHOTO TAKEN IN CONEY ISLAND......  http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1969-Mack-R-Salvage-4/121162672599?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D718628643314776267%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D281153558682%26

 

[Atlas]

The reason why 38 had that Mack was because they use to do explosive escorts in those days.

 

[memory master]

From reading the original assignments for the Firebrands, the Internationals and the Mack Rs, they all went to busy companies. Was this an experiment to see how they would hold up or just giving the newest apparatus to the busy companies?

fdce54, when 297 received the 1960 Ward it replaced, as stated by Guitarman, a 1941 Mack. 297, in 1960, was lucky to be doing 300 runs a year and most of that was brush and deep seeded land fill fires.

 

[kidfrmqns]

Didn't TL105 used to be a single truck house in the area that is now the Barclay's Center? What year did they leave that firehouse and move in with E219? Was E219 a single engine prior to TL105 moving in their quarters?