Helmet markings

[alycidon]

Can somebody explain the helmet markings and front plates of the members of the FDNY ?

 

[fdhistorian]

Can somebody explain the helmet markings and front plates of the members of the FDNY ?

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VINTAGE FDNY WAR YEAR LIDS

Where is Divison 11 out of? Tillary St. BKLYN w/BN*31...207...110 ...BBC etc. ...... https://www.fdnytrucks.com/files/html/brooklyn/e207.htm

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[lfdlt31]

Engines are black
ladders are red
rescues are blue
squads are yellow
all with white numbers

officers the colour and white are reversed.
that’s it in a nutshell

 

[raybrag]

Don't forget the green (marine units).

 

[HCO]

Hazmat, as well as Rescue - blue
Probationary Firefighters - orange

 

[lfdlt31]

And chiefs are white helmets with gold shields

 

[alycidon]

Thanks for replies

 

[Disp51]

From WNYF (Oct.'59)

1959 oct WNYF helmet frontpieces LR â Postimages

postlmg.cc

 

[alycidon]

What are these members?

 

[Bulldog]

What are these members?

The only way to is by seeing the faceplate on the front of the helmet.

 

[Lebby]

The only way to is by seeing the faceplate on the front of the helmet.

Nowadays the back of the mask also has a unit identifier

 

[alycidon]

O thanks, so it goes by the face plate?

 

[Lebby]

O thanks, so it goes by the face plate?

So the helmet has a leather front piece with the number of the company which is color coded to the type of unit it is and the member's rank or badge number. The insert (the color coded number) is also in the last year now being replicated on the back of the breathing apparatus to allow for identification from both sides.

 

[Signal73]

 

[t123ken]

View attachment 33036

The above was completely accurate about 60 years ago, although some are still accurate today.

 

[vbcapt]

You also have the Company Officers decal at the top of the white front piece:
1 bugle, Engine Lieutenant
2 bugles, Engine Captain
1 axe, Ladder Lieutenant
2 axes, Ladder Captain
1 Lyle gun, Rescue Lieutenant
2 Lyle guns, Rescue Captain
1 crossed bugle/ladder, Squad Lieutenant
2 crossed bugle/ladder, Squad Captain
1 bugle/anchor, Marine Lieutenant
2 bugles/anchor, Marine Captain
Not sure if hazmat uses the Lyle gun or not