New Seagraves

[mac8146]

First batch of KME Engines came in June 2014 to companies depending on when companies received them they could be kp14001 and up and units after July 2014 they were kp15001 and so on. So they are approaching 11 years in service

 

[fdnycand89]

what do you mean ?

They should be due for replacement

 

[NikFDNY]

Aren't majority of the KMEs not up for replacement for a few more years?

So far (if my count is correct), there should be 41 KMEs up for replacement, but the 2013 and 2014 Seagraves are up first, along with the Squads. I wouldn't expect any KMEs to be replaced for the next two or three Years.

 

[Skyler Fire]

Everything is backed up from Covid. Hard to catch up

 

[ExChief-551]

How'd you guys like the KMEs? They were built locally to me until just recently and there are a lot around me. Howeve, Pierce seems to be taking everyone's local business of late.

 

[ZombieFire]

How'd you guys like the KMEs? They were built locally to me until just recently and there are a lot around me. Howeve, Pierce seems to be taking everyone's local business of late.

Near me it feels like everyone is going with E-One, Ferrara, and Spartan. And then there's North Arlington staying with KME

 

[ExChief-551]

Scranton City is diehard Sutphen, having just placed an order for 2 new engines from them after getting a 100' stick, Tower ladder, engine and heavy rescue from them in the last few years. Almost everyone else is Pierce with close to 20 different pieces in the area either delivered or on order.

 

[Sfdc111]

So far (if my count is correct), there should be 41 KMEs up for replacement, but the 2013 and 2014 Seagraves are up first, along with the Squads. I wouldn't expect any KMEs to be replaced for the next two or three Years.

According to a post from someone that was at the Fire Bell meeting there is 41 regular Seagrave engines on order, as well as squads and High Pressure engines. I cant remember the number of squads or HP on order, but 41 stuck out to me.

 

[ExChief-551]

About how long is it going to take Seagrave to build 41 engines?

 

[NikFDNY]

According to a post from someone that was at the Fire Bell meeting there is 41 regular Seagrave engines on order, as well as squads and High Pressure engines. I cant remember the number of squads or HP on order, but 41 stuck out to me.

I dont know what exactly is up for replacement prior to the KMEs, but to my knowledge none of the 2013+ Seagraves have been replaced, which would make the current number of engines up for replacement somewhere around 63 if my numbers are correct. (Or will be approaching 63 in the coming months)

 

[Darrell]

Near me it feels like everyone is going with E-One, Ferrara, and Spartan. And then there's North Arlington staying with KME

Same with Irvington, Ferrara and Spartan

 

[Rich@36]

About how long is it going to take Seagrave to build 41 engines?

They are on the line now, being built

 

[captaindewey50267021@gm]

The length of service for apparatus may be perhaps in the IAFF Contract agreements, but the need for replacement of fire apparatus is also stipulated in the "I.S.O. = Insurance Service Organization ratings that determines the Fire insurance rates. A few major fire departments have I.S.O. Ratings of 1 = the best top rating on the I.S.O. Scale. Los Angles FD is a somehow still a I.S.O. Class 1 rated fire department in spite of the severe manpower shortages that exist and poor water supply to hydrants in some areas. Why is it still Class 1 rated? Lots of new rigs, and good initial response times and well-trained firefighters. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired

 

[EdMc]

The length of service for apparatus may be perhaps in the IAFF Contract agreements, but the need for replacement of fire apparatus is also stipulated in the "I.S.O. = Insurance Service Organization ratings that determines the Fire insurance rates. A few major fire departments have I.S.O. Ratings of 1 = the best top rating on the I.S.O. Scale. Los Angles FD is a somehow still a I.S.O. Class 1 rated fire department in spite of the severe manpower shortages that exist and poor water supply to hydrants in some areas. Why is it still Class 1 rated? Lots of new rigs, and good initial response times and well-trained firefighters. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired

I just googled the ISO ratings of City of LA and the County of LA and I believe they both have been downgraded to a 2 but interesting I googled Chicago and they are a 1.

 

[baileyjeff]

They are on the line now, being built

When is the first one scheduled to be delivered?

 

[Oh Bah Gahd]

I just googled the ISO ratings of City of LA and the County of LA and I believe they both have been downgraded to a 2 but interesting I googled Chicago and they are a 1.

Chicago may have crappy rigs, but they have a better average response time by 3 minutes and don’t have as many water supply issues.

 

[Rich@36]

When is the first one scheduled to be delivered?

I can't say

 

[sjm1584]

ladder 1s new rig is in service

 

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