- Jan 11, 2021
Hi, I’m new, I’m from Italy. A quick question for you. Where can I find the FDNY bid? Have you got a link? Thank you guys!
As a kid in the 1940's, I remember H&L 39, on E.233rd Street..the last few rungs stuck out the rear window of qtrs. Also sharing the house was a yellow truck, which if my memory is still good, was assigned to the Miners and Sappers unit.As an outsider I’ve wondered, how much larger have the towers gotten? In physical truck sizes, obviously firehouses aren’t all getting bigger but obviously there has been a size increase from the single axle CF 75’s to the current Seagrave 75’s. Again from an outsiders perspective this must play into how maneuverable these new towers are. One would think tillers would make for better maneuverability in some of these neighborhoods now, but obviously the tillers have increased in size as well.
Correct name was Corps of Sappers and Miners of the Fire Dept. From a New York Times article dated Jan.26, 1883.As a kid in the 1940's, I remember H&L 39, on E.233rd Street..the last few rungs stuck out the rear window of qtrs. Also sharing the house was a yellow truck, which if my memory is still good, was assigned to the Miners and Sappers unit.
Tillers followup:From Norwood, The Bronx, our family moved to Akron, Ohio..1st due Engine 9 ran with 1940's vintage Seagrave with the Sweetheart grill, and equipped with a screech whistle. 1st due truck, Ladder 3, ran with an Ahrens-FoxI just jogged my memory bank..The explosives were stored in a masoleum in Woodlawn.
Tillers and Tower ladders you are comparing apples to oranges. Both rigs have unique features. Tillers of course have a much better manuverability. The box assignments back in the day tried to incorporate a ladder and a TL. The TL's have gotten longer with the dual axel and full cab. The basket which used to hang over the rear is now protected by cabinets that were not there previously and does make the rig look larger, too. Since the dual axel, there are some areas where getting around with a TL may be problematic, but then again we have some ace Ladder Chauffeurs out there!
Definitely apples to oranges, I was curious if the FDNY has ever thought of going back to tillers for some areas where it’s tight. Where I currently work we started out with TL158’s single axle 75’ CF, we’re a small town, that truck fit great, now we have a dual axle KME TL, and it’s excessively tight in areas, just had me wondering if the new size is posing problems.
Ladder 43 El Barrios Bravest ran a Tiller ALF Until maybe 1971? When they moved into their new Quarters they then had a rearmount. The Tiller at the Old House 111st with Engine 91 and the 25 Battalion was the fastest in the City lol. It would roar down 2ND Avenue and everybody got the Hell outta the way.