Sand Unit - ATRV

[tbendick]

Bid out for a new Sand Rig or ARTV for E329

 

[BCR]

I'm kinda suprised that they would not try and just get a new chassis. from the after pictures I saw it looked like only water damage, not any physical damage, take the body apart sandblast paint and mount to a new cab or even just a real good power washing ( not sure what material the body is) or heck buy the new one and do a remount when the shop slows down then you have a spare/ something to cruse the beach in durig the summer however I don't know the full extent of damage

 

[NYBravest82]

Water damages a lot more then paint and the like. Electrical is fried, who knows how much that costs, the fittings are corroded, and the salt water probably took a toll on everything else. Its not worth it to remount. Just junk it and start over.

 

[tbendick]

Also think money from the feds might have had a role in this.  I also thought that they might have rebuilt the unit, first thing I saw coming over the bridge in the AM was the ATRV sitting there.

 

[tbendick]

Kovatch on!y bidder

 

[Bulldog]

That certainly sounds a little high for what the unit is!  It's just basically a manifold on wheels with a few compartments and ladders unless they significantly changed the specifications.

 

[tbendick]

I think its for 3 units.

 

[Bulldog]

I think its for 3 units.

That's certainly what it looks like I looking at the bid sheets.  The unit price is a little over $400,000 in the total is over 1.2 million.  $400,000 certainly sounds high unless the specifications have changed a lot from the past.

 

[BCR]

For 400k I would hope it had its own pump and came fully equipted and even then it seems real high

 

[soda-acid]

Since there was only one bidder, will the bid be thrown out and the whole process started over?

 

[tbendick]

1,220,133.00. To KME

 

[FDNY793727]

1,220,133.00. To KME

Do you know any of the specifications for the units? Or just a sand vehicle right now?

 

[tbendick]

I will look for the spec but when I saw a copy it looked like the same thing as the one that was lost to Sandy.  Some little changes here and there.

 

[Bulldog]

I will look for the spec but when I saw a copy it looked like the same thing as the one that was lost to Sandy.  Some little changes here and there.

If that's the case I certainly don't understand the cost that came into this quote.  Also I'm wondering why they are ordering 3 of these units?  I wonder if the other 2 are going to be issued 2 different units or held in reserve for major storm problems.

 

[tbendick]

Not sure why it looks like it's 3 units, the spec even said 329 in it.  Guess we will found out at some point if it's 3 or just 1 very expensive unit.

 

[BCR]

How often is the sand rig utilized ? I know there is deffinatly a need for the rig with the type of streets and the neighborhood but I was just curious to see how many runs the atrv takes in yearly.

 

[Bulldog]

Not sure why it looks like it's 3 units, the spec even said 329 in it.  Guess we will found out at some point if it's 3 or just 1 very expensive unit.

The bid sheet you posted earlier certainly leads you to believe that it's for 3 units with a unit price of about $400,000, which in itself is extremely expensive for what the old rig was.  If it's going to be $1.2 million for one unit is going to have to be something!

 

[MP1234]

BCR everytime E329 goes toward brezzy they take it and I'm almost sure they take it when responding to Floydd Bennent Field.

 

[BCR]

BCR everytime E329 goes toward brezzy they take it and I'm almost sure they take it when responding to Floydd Bennent Field.

Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was one of those rigs that was  special call only, sounds like it really fills a need that they have with the area they cover. For that price I wonder if they will come with a pump and tank, I could see them having two extras for special events and storms and could respond has a single company kinda like they do with the SOC trucks second piece. We will  have to wait and see as others mentioned the price seems a bit steep for a hose wagon. If they end up with a crew cab f-550 like the last one, with government pricing it's probably only around 50,000-60,000 max so that will be one heck of a body and Equiptment to get it up that high in price

 

[68jk09]

The original "Sand Rig" as it was called  when i passed through 329 on & off back in late '92/early  '93 was strictly a manifold hose wagon (no pumps) ... the Pumper would stay on the paved road @ a hydrant & the Sand Vehicle after dropping  a supply line would proceed to the Fire & then 1 3/4 would be stretched from it into the bldg.... it was a single cab 4 wheel drive truck w/a hose body on the back.....the Rig has to be small enough to fit down the sand lanes & walkways between house's.....increasing the size too much would negate the purpose....also the Rig back then did not have IMO the best tires for sand also it lacked a rapid system to "air down" & reinflate the tires for sand use....often on the beach it did get stuck itself..... as stated before it only went West of the FH to Roxbury/Rockaway Point/Breezy Point...i dont remember it going to Floyd Bennet although 329 was 1st Due there.....the vollies in the 3 communities had some good off road setups.