VINTAGE FDNY WAR YEAR LIDS

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THIS IS A QUIZ FOR SHARPSHOOTERS; This frontpiece listed for sale on e-bay from FDNY E 10. What makes this piece bogus?
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THIS IS A QUIZ FOR SHARPSHOOTERS; This frontpiece listed for sale on e-bay from FDNY E 10. What makes this piece bogus?
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Mr Gage, looking at that photo shouldn't the numbers ("1" and "0") ONLY be in black and the rest of the front piece be all white.

Also I don't think the officers of companies have badge numbers on the bottom.

Johnny, I'm NOT betting on my response to be correct, but if it is "I'm more of a SHARPSHOOTER than a few others here might think". Just spread the word for me ok.

Uncle Wilfred
 
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It looks like it may be a covering company officer's frontpiece.
It lacks the rank of the officer, either "CAPTAIN" or "LIEUTENANT".
It has a badge number which should not be there.
If it is a covering officer's frontpiece, it should not have the engine lieutenant heraldic device.
 
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In early 60's the Lieutenant of an engine company did have a black insert with white lettering, the company Captain had a white insert with black lettering. But that was it, no badge number of rank decal. Also, for a period, the inserts were "screwed" into the frontpiece with a small panhead type screw. Photo 2 is the current Lieutenant frontpiece with the addred rocker panel with rank. Good call Gents! Nothing gets by you Mr. Willy!
 
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Actually, "I DID Get a Little Help".

I looked at the Herb Essyers helmet collection in reply # 454 (above).

Because of that, I MUST Forfeit my claim to the winner of the "FDNY Vintage War Years Lid - Sharpshooters Quiz Contest" and disqualify myself.

The winning title must therefore go to "t123ken" for his response to that sharpshooters quiz question.

Congratulations "t123ken" and Johnny, I'm sorry I let you down. It won't happen again.
 

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Here is another FDNY-style frontpiece - with the same "217" badge number.

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These three frontpieces have not been worn and are a collectors item. I saw one frontpiece that sold for a few hundred dollars to someone oversas. Must be a market, even though they were replicas.
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These seem to have seen action:
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What a collection !!!

Even a very special one for Johnny Gage

see: Row 9, center of page.
 
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