TACTICAL USE OF FIRE HYDRANTS.

TELLER AVE off 166 ST. .........
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Note the kinks in the yellow supply line. Hope the fire was not that serious. It looks like a typical All Hands in the South Bronx. I had the pleasure of covering long term in Ladder 19 that is Quartered with Engine 50. Both E-50 and L-19 were great units and very very busy when I worked there in the mid, 1980s, and they both still do alto of work. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
Lebby said:
Does anyone have a picture of a Red Air Cock Hydrant?
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"Red Air Cock Hydrants - Hydrants on 30” diameter or greater mains in strategic locations (high and low points on the water main). These hydrants are painted red and are excellent sources of water for fire department use."
 
This reminds me of the old Twin Black Hydrants on large water mains that had TWO 4 1/2" outlets placed on large water mains for use by the old Super Pumper System. Regular FDNY units were NOT to use those twin special hydrants, due to being reserved ONLY for the Super Pumper System. I do not know if they still exist. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26
 
Captain784 said:
This reminds me of the old Twin Black Hydrants on large water mains that had TWO 4 1/2" outlets placed on large water mains for use by the old Super Pumper System. Regular FDNY units were NOT to use those twin special hydrants, due to being reserved ONLY for the Super Pumper System. I do not know if they still exist. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26
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I believe they have all been converted to satellite hydrants and painted red.
 
Somewhere USA - Engine Co: “ha ha ha we had to get water”

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FDNY Tower Ladder: “ Amateurs! - hold my drink”

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I spent over 20+ years in very busy FDNY Tower Ladders. Including TL-18, TL-44, TL-7 and TL-21, If you stand arms out and fingers extended outward that gives a good way to determine if you have the 6 ft. required for most Tower Ladder stabilizers to be deployed fully down. Another way is to use a 6-foot hook to measure the needed space for the Tower Ladder stabilizers. Always make sure you don't place the stabilizers of a 68,00 to 70,000+ on any soil, pavement or anything else that can support that weight. If you MUST always fully extend the stabilizers & jacks, so that all the wheels are off or just touching the surface. Tower Ladder generally need to be position at about 15 degrees angle to the curb or the front of the building for maximum reach and coverage of the Tower Ladder basket called the SCRUB area. My friend Lt. Mike Wilber L-27 FDNY Retired, has some excellent online and magazine articles about all apparatus, including Tower Ladders. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26
 
What ever handle you go by Bob, it’s good to have you here to share your knowledge from experience. Stay well brother!
 
Using the front suction while often necessary does reduces the amount of water available to the pumps due to all the piping from the front of the rig to the pump itself. The piping has to go through the wheel wells or under the cab and this reduces the flow available due to some friction loss and restriction. But when cars block the hydrant you "Gotta Do what You have to do;" Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
captaindewey50267021@gm said:
Using the front suction while often necessary does reduces the amount of water available to the pumps due to all the piping from the front of the rig to the pump itself. The piping has to go through the wheel wells or under the cab and this reduces the flow available due to some friction loss and restriction. But when cars block the hydrant you "Gotta Do what You have to do;" Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
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I seem to remember reading in the books that that assuming pressures are equal, the 35-foot 5 inch connection delivers more water to the pumps, even more than the hard suction.
 
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