11/28/22 Queens 3rd Alarm Box 7186

[UnitWithTheUrgent]

Address: 38-21 23rd St. off 39th Ave.

Fire in a 2 story 100x100 auto body shop

Box after initial - Reporting fire in an auto body shop - 01:53

E-260: Give a 10-75 - Car fire with a little extension into the building - 01:56

L-128 FAST

B-45: We had a car fire in front of the the building that exposed to the building - 2 L/S, 1 L/O - 02:04

B-45: Extra E&T (E-325 & TL-163) - 02:06

B-45: Water on the fire - Checking for extension in the exposure - 02:09

QD transmitting the All Hands.

D-14: 3 L/S, 2 L/O - DWH - 02:16

D-14: Transmit the 2nd Alarm - Heavy fire in the rear - 02:20

B-46 FF, B-35 RUL, B-8 Safety

D-14: 4 L/S, 3 L/O - TL being setup - 02:35

D-14: Transmit the 3rd Alarm - Heavy fire through the roof - 02:40

B-28 FF, B-9 Staging, B-58 Air Recon, E-332 Communications

Staging: 21st St. at 38th Ave.

D-14: Water on the fire - Fire is darkening down - 02:49

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks, 1 is to relieve the FAST truck (TL-117 & L-130 act. 128) - 02:59

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks (L-26 act. 116 & TL-12 act. 115) - 03:20

FC: Per C-10, PWH - 03:44

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks (TL-111 & TL-116) - 04:29

FC: Transmit a 10-41 code 3 - 04:31

FC: Under Control - 04:42

Maybe:
E-260, 262, 258, 259, 325 s/c
L-116, 115, 128F, 163 s/c
B-45, 49
R-4
SQ-288
D-14
RAC-1

2nd Alarm:
E-273 (act. 260), 263, 312
L-136 (act. 116)
B-46, 35R, 8S
FC, RB, SB, TSU-1, CTU, RM
E-324 w/ Sat. 4
Car-10

3rd Alarm:
E-305 (act. 258), 238, 292, 307
L-4 (act.116), 142 (act. 163), 117 s/c, 130F (act. 128) s/c, 26 (act. 116) s/c, 12 (act. 115) s/c, 111 s/c, 146 s/c
B-28, 9 Staging, 58 Air Recon
E-332 Communications
MSU
RAC-2
Car-24, 22b, 23d, 12c, 32

Relocations:
E-273 to E-260
E-16 to E-260
E-230 to E-259
E-73 to E-263
E-205 to E-238
E-305 to E-258
E-22 to E-325
L-136 to L-116
L-4 to L-116
L-26 to L-116
L-130 to L-128
L-12 to L-115
L-142 to L-163
L-119 to L-163

 

[Signal73]

 

[THEMAJESTIRIUM1]

“{ FDNY BOX 7186 ~ MANHATTAN }”…..”{ FDNY BATTLING A 3RD ALARM COMMERCIAL FIRE ON 23RD STREET IN THE ASTORIA AREA OF QUEENS IN NEW YORK CITY }”…..

 

[Signal73]

Under Control @ 04:43

 

[alycidon]

Car 10 (Bronx Borough Commander DAC John Sarrocco) as per 2022 Medals ceremony

 

[Skyler Fire]

 

[skiLB]

Address: 38-21 23rd St. off 39th Ave.

Fire in a 2 story 100x100 auto body shop

Box after initial - Reporting fire in an auto body shop - 01:53

E-260: Give a 10-75 - Car fire with some extension - 01:56

L-128 FAST

B-45: We had a car fire in front of the the building that exposed to the building - 2 L/S, 1 L/O - 02:04

B-45: Extra E&T (E-325 & TL-163) - 02:06

B-45: Water on the fire - Checking for extension in the exposure - 02:09

QD transmitting the All Hands.

D-14: 3 L/S, 2 L/O - DWH - 02:16

D-14: Transmit the 2nd Alarm - Heavy fire in the rear - 02:20

B-46 FF, B-35 RUL, B-8 Safety

D-14: 4 L/S, 3 L/O - TL being setup - 02:35

D-14: Transmit the 3rd Alarm - Heavy fire through the roof - 02:40

B-28 FF, B-9 Staging, B-58 Air Recon, E-332 Communications

Staging: 21st St. at 38th Ave.

D-14: Water on the fire - Fire is darkening down - 02:49

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks, 1 is to relieve the FAST truck (TL-117 & L-130 act. 128) - 02:59

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks (L-26 act. 116 & TL-12 act. 115) - 03:20

FC: Per C-10, PWH - 03:44

Maybe:
E-260, 262, 258, 259, 325 s/c
L-116, 115, 128F, 163 s/c
B-45, 49
R-4
SQ-288
D-14
RAC-1

2nd Alarm:
E-273 (act. 260), 263, 312
L-136 (act. 116)
B-46, 35R, 8S
FC, RB, SB, TSU-1, CTU, RM
E-324 w/ Sat. 4
Car-10

3rd Alarm:
E-305 (act.), 238, 292, 307
L-4 (act.116), 142 (act. 163), 117 s/c, 130F (act. 128) s/c, 26 (act. 116) s/c, 12 (act. 115) s/c
B-28, 9 Staging, 58 Air Recon
E-332 Communications
MSU
RAC-2
Car-24, 22b, 23d, 12c, 32

Relocations:
E-273 to E-260
E-16 to E-260
E-230 to E-259
E-73 to E-263
E-205 to E-238
E-22 to E-325
L-136 to L-116
L-4 to L-116
L-26 to L-116
L-130 to L-128
L-12 to L-115
L-142 to L-163
L-119 to L-163

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Gr8 pics & video.

 

[tperez102]

L-117 Would normally be the fast truck on the 10-75 Assigned on the 3rd?

 

[Signal73]

L-117 Would normally be the fast truck on the 10-75 Assigned on the 3rd?

L-117 Normally 2nd Due on 2nd Alarm

But assigned on the 3rd due to relocators going to jobs before normal assignment card companies

 

[Signal73]

Came in as a rubbish fire...hence the box after initial

 

[mikeindabronx]

https://abc7ny.com/fire-autobody-shop-queens-long-island-city/12502729/

 

[tperez102]

Sig73 when will this new practice stop? Are they looking at this? Just assigning the relocator because they are in the response area? The relocator is providing coverage. The Dispatcher should wait and assign those companies normally due. Am I wrong?

 

[Signal73]

There was a convo about this on another thread (Not sure which one)

All I know is its what operations wants. It will not stop

Regardless L-117 isn't normal fast

 

[tperez102]

OH I get the Fast truck part , but God forbid in this area My Area heavily congested we cant have relocators coming from a long distance I will stop now. Thanks Sig73.

 

[Signal73]

They aren't assigned from their own quarters.

Id say 95% of the time they are "10-8" in that companies response area

Example from above

L-117 2nd Due on 2nd Alarm 2.5 miles away
L-136 Act. 116 will say is at the quarters of 116 is 0.6 miles away

They are wanting closest available company assigned

 

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[BBBSHA32]

Basically companies no longer have 2nd 3rd or 4th alarm boxes anymore? Because now it’s just assign a relocated company and then relocate another company to that original company at the job. Makes no sense

 

[tommyhal&oat]

Basically companies no longer have 2nd 3rd or 4th alarm boxes anymore? Because now it’s just assign a relocated company and then relocate another company to that original company at the job. Makes no sense

It seems that after the full first alarm assignment everything is up in the air.

 

[ta176]

My question is who makes the decision on who to relocate and to where? Does the computer do it or the Dispatcher? In the old days we had alarm box cards that spelled everything out. If an all hands came in you looked up on the card to see if you would respond on the 2nd alarm or any future alarm. The cards had info up to the 5th alarm. If you were on second alarm members would assemble on apparatus floor waiting for that 2nd alarm or the under control signal.

 

[Bklyn1234]

Basically companies no longer have 2nd 3rd or 4th alarm boxes anymore? Because now it’s just assign a relocated company and then relocate another company to that original company at the job. Makes no sense

How does it make no sense, there’s a job going on and they are trying to get the closest units there to put out the fire. Would you rather be waiting on a unit thats 8 blocks away or 80.