12/1/13 Bronx 2nd Alarm 10-60 Train Derailment Box 4972

Hurricanes298 said:
Location: Independence Ave & Palisade Ave

TL-46 confirming 5 cars derailed, 2 over turned major train wreck, numerous victims.

B-27 we have multiple people trapped

First Alarm/10-60
E-52,81,95,92,48
L-52,46,56 Fast,45,37
B-27,19
B-18(Safty)
B-17(Resource)
E-46(Comm. Unit)
R-3,1,4
L-116 w/C.R4
L-25 w/ C.R1
L-27 w/ C.R3
L-14,42(Soc Supports)
Sq-61,41
Car-6,1a,11,1d,4d,12,23,1,3,16d,12a,4t
RB,SB
FC
Tac-1
Rac-3
Marine-1,6
Marine Battalion
Command Tac

2nd Alarm
E-42,88,62,
L-36
B-13,26s/c (staging)
E-97 w/ Sat. 2
E-262 w/ IMT
B-?s/c (Planning)

Hazmat response
E-75,93
HM-1
HMB

Relief
E-45,67
L-59,33
B-3,11
MCC-1
Sq-252 act. Sq-41
Sq-18

Relief @13:15
E-48,71
L-29,54
Sq-270
R-6(not a type-o )

B-27 we have 1 car at the waters edge. 1 10-45 No Code give me a marine unit if you can @ 07:52
D-7 give me 2 addtional rescue companies @ 08:05
C-11 have them bring there collapse rescues with them @8:08
D-7 give me a 2nd Alarm @08:14
D-7 2 10-45 Code 1s
D-7 s/c 2 addtional engines and hazmat 1 for a decon station @08:24
R-2 to Queens relocating to R-4 @08:29
R-5 to Manhattan relocating to R-1 @08:30
D-7 per EMS as off now there is 4 Black Tag, 8 Red tag, 5 Yellow Tag,30 Green Tag @08:39
FC-Car4D reports all victims removed setting operations to check under the trains @08:49
FC-Car 3 reports all searches complete @09:25
FC- s/c the IMT Vehicle with a planning chief @09:43
FC-s/c 2 Engines 2 Trucks & 2 BCs for relief and have them report to B-26 @09:56
FC-s/c squad 252 to relieve Sq61 & Sq41 @10:56
Sq-252 need a squad to replace us where broken down @10:58
Squad 288 was told to go 10-8
Squad 18 responding @11:06
MCC1 s/c 2 Engines 2 Trucks for relief @13:15
Sq-270 relief for Sq-61 @13:15
R-6 replacing R1 @13:15

Relocation:
Engine 35 Act. Engine 75
Rescue 2 Act. Rescue 4
Rescue 5 Act. Rescue 1
Engine 316 Act. Engine 88
Engine 303 Act. Engine 38
Battalion 49 Act. Battalion 26
Battalion 10 Act. Battalion 19
Ladder 51 Act. Ladder 33
Squad 252 Act. Squad 41
Battalion 14 Act. Battalion 27
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Engine 165 Ladder 136 Squad 288 & Battalion 15 responding to Box 4972 @21:30
Squad 252 Rescue 5 assigned in @22:32
Engine 84 replacing Engine 165 @22:48
Battalion 10 replacing Battalion 15 @22:51
 
Great great run down, hurricane. Many thanks.

Minor question... why engine 92 on the first alarm before 43, 48,75, and 79?
 
3511 said:
Great great run down, hurricane. Many thanks.

Minor question... why engine 92 on the first alarm before 43, 48,75, and 79?
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Must have been other boxes out in the area. deep run for 92 on the first alarm. 79 and 48 would be there in under 5 minutes while 92 would be a solid 10 minutes away
 
I woke up to the Beep Beep Beep from the scanner, so I was listening from the get go. BD read it to D-7 and i agree with you 3511 but i bet there was another box out
 
The second alarm engines, 88,42,62, also a hell of a lot closer. Either a misprint Or hell of a lot more going on on a Sunday morning that we know about.

But again, a minor point in view of this tragedy.
 
Every 3 hours they have to special call 2 Engines, 1 soc support truck, 1 battalion, 1 rescue, 1 squad and 1 hazmat technician company
 
They are removing the diesel fuel from the locomotive that is starting at 02:00, right now they are just there for standby by. A friend of a friend said since there are only 4 hazmat technician engines(44,165,250,274) they are all going to go atleast twice tonight
 
The Nolan Rail Cart. That's 'splains at all, Lucy. Learn something everyday. Great info, all hands.
 
Hurricanes298 said:
Hurricanes298 said:
Location: Independence Ave & Palisade Ave

TL-46 confirming 5 cars derailed, 2 over turned major train wreck, numerous victims.

B-27 we have multiple people trapped

First Alarm/10-60
E-52,81,95,92,48
L-52,46,56 Fast,45,37
B-27,19
B-18(Safty)
B-17(Resource)
E-46(Comm. Unit)
R-3,1,4
L-116 w/C.R4
L-25 w/ C.R1
L-27 w/ C.R3
L-14,42(Soc Supports)
Sq-61,41
Car-6,1a,11,1d,4d,12,23,1,3,16d,12a,4t
RB,SB
FC
Tac-1
Rac-3
Marine-1,6
Marine Battalion
Command Tac

2nd Alarm
E-42,88,62,
L-36
B-13,26s/c (staging)
E-97 w/ Sat. 2
E-262 w/ IMT
B-?s/c (Planning)

Hazmat response
E-75,93
HM-1
HMB

Relief
E-45,67
L-59,33
B-3,11
MCC-1
Sq-252 act. Sq-41
Sq-18

Relief @13:15
E-48,71
L-29,54
Sq-270
R-6(not a type-o )

B-27 we have 1 car at the waters edge. 1 10-45 No Code give me a marine unit if you can @ 07:52
D-7 give me 2 addtional rescue companies @ 08:05
C-11 have them bring there collapse rescues with them @8:08
D-7 give me a 2nd Alarm @08:14
D-7 2 10-45 Code 1s
D-7 s/c 2 addtional engines and hazmat 1 for a decon station @08:24
R-2 to Queens relocating to R-4 @08:29
R-5 to Manhattan relocating to R-1 @08:30
D-7 per EMS as off now there is 4 Black Tag, 8 Red tag, 5 Yellow Tag,30 Green Tag @08:39
FC-Car4D reports all victims removed setting operations to check under the trains @08:49
FC-Car 3 reports all searches complete @09:25
FC- s/c the IMT Vehicle with a planning chief @09:43
FC-s/c 2 Engines 2 Trucks & 2 BCs for relief and have them report to B-26 @09:56
FC-s/c squad 252 to relieve Sq61 & Sq41 @10:56
Sq-252 need a squad to replace us where broken down @10:58
Squad 288 was told to go 10-8
Squad 18 responding @11:06
MCC1 s/c 2 Engines 2 Trucks for relief @13:15
Sq-270 relief for Sq-61 @13:15
R-6 replacing R1 @13:15

Relocation:
Engine 35 Act. Engine 75
Rescue 2 Act. Rescue 4
Rescue 5 Act. Rescue 1
Engine 316 Act. Engine 88
Engine 303 Act. Engine 38
Battalion 49 Act. Battalion 26
Battalion 10 Act. Battalion 19
Ladder 51 Act. Ladder 33
Squad 252 Act. Squad 41
Battalion 14 Act. Battalion 27
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Engine 165 Ladder 136 Squad 288 & Battalion 15 responding to Box 4972 @21:30
Squad 252 Rescue 5 assigned in @22:32
Engine 84 replacing Engine 165 @22:48
Battalion 10 replacing Battalion 15 @22:51
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Engine 52 responding @07:07
MCC1-D-7 reports car XXX has been moved up right and searches are negative @07:13
MCC1-D-7 reports car XXX has been moved up right and searches are negative @08:32
 
I think they should have called in the reliever for that dispatcher.  Hard to listen to her
 
Towards end of ems tape m e r v 2 struck numerous times by nypd esu any one know how much damage to vehicle
 
They changed the 10-60 code. 
See here for chart  http://nycfire.net/fdny/communications/1060

Now there is:
10-60 No Code
10-60 C1
2nd Alarm 10-60 NC
2nd Alarm C1
2nd Alarm C2
3rd Alarm C2


No code =
Major Emergency Incident with the potential for multiple casualties, e.g. collapse
of a private dwelling, derailment of a subway car. The total response will be:
5 - Engine Companies
3 - Ladder Companies
4 - Battalion Chiefs
3rd Due Battalion Chief is designated Safety Officer
4th Due Battalion Chief is designated Resources Unit Leader
1 - Deputy Chief
1 - FAST Unit
1 - Rescue Task Force (which includes 1 Rescue Co., 1 Collapse Rescue, 1 Squad
Co. w 2nd Piece, 1 SOC Support Ladder and 1 Rescue Paramedic Unit
1 - Rescue Battalion
1 - Safety Battalion
1 - Tactical Support Unit
1 - Communication Unit
1 - Field Communications Unit
1 - Recuperation and Care (RAC) Unit
1 - Public Information Officer
Note:  Requests from the IC for additional resources above a 10-60 will require the  establishment 
of  a  Staging  Area.    An  additional  Battalion  Chief  will  be
assigned and designated as the Staging Area Manager.

Code 1 =
Enhanced Technical Rescue Resources Required
Major Emergency Incident with the potential for multiple casualties, with the need for Enhanced
Technical Rescue Resources.

Note:  Technical  Rescue  defined  as  tunneling,  trenching,  shoring,  cutting  of load-bearing
structural members, complicated disentanglement/extrication, etc.

The total response will be:

10-60 assignment plus:
1 - Add?l Battalion Chief
5th Due Battalion Chief is designated Staging Area Manager and a Staging Area shall be established.
(Unless SA already established on 10-60, then BC can be designated Sector Supervisor, Street
Coordination Manager, Strike Team Leader, etc. (IC discretion)
1 - Add?l Rescue Task Force
1 - Haz-Mat Tech Engine Company
1 - Haz-Mat Battalion
1 - Haz-Mat Company #1
1 - SOC Logistics Support Unit
1 - SOC Compressor Unit
1 - Con Edison Vacuum Truck

10-60 code 2=

Enhanced Technical Rescue Resources Required ? Large Scale
Major Emergency Incident with the potential for multiple casualties, with the need for Enhanced
Technical Rescue Resources.  Incident is of a larger scale requiring an enhanced 2nd Alarm
assignment, e.g. collapse of a 6 story multiple dwelling, an explosion with severe collateral
structural damage, airplane crash (except Airport Crash Boxes 37 LaGuardia and 269 JFK).
The total response will be:
10-60 Code 1 assignment plus:
5 - Add?l Engine Companies
3 - Add?l Ladder Companies
1 - Add?l Battalion Chief
6th Due Battalion Chief can be designated Sector Supervisor, Street Coordination
Manager, Strike Team Leader, etc. (IC discretion)
1 - Air Recon Chief                                        1 - Planning Section Chief
1 - Add?l Deputy Chief                                  1 - Satellite Unit
1 - Add?l Haz-Mat Tech Engine Company    1 - Haz-Mat Decon Support Unit
1 - SOC Dewatering Unit                              1 - Planning Vehicle
1 - Mobile Command Center
Note:  Upon transmission of a 10-60 Code 2, the appropriate Battalion Chiefs shall be assigned and
designated Air Recon Chief and Planning Section Chief.
In addition to EMS resources originally assigned on initial response, resources assigned on a
Signal 10-60, including Codes 1 and 2, are:
1 - EMS Division Chief                                1 - EMS Deputy Chief
2 - EMS Conditions Officers                        1 - OMA Response Physician
1 - Haz-Tac Officer                                        1 - Logistical Support Unit (LSU)
1 - ALS Ambulance                                      2 - BLS Ambulances
1 - Rescue Paramedic Unit (included in Rescue Task Force)
1 - Major Emergency Response Vehicle (MERV)
1 - Mobile Respiratory Treatment Unit (MRTU)
Note:  Requests from the IC for additional resources on Signal 10-60, including
Codes 1 and 2, may come in the form of special calls, e.g.:
    Individual Resources
    Victim Removal Group:
Defined as 3 Engines, 2 Ladders and 1 Battalion Chief whose primary duty is the removal of victims
via skeds, stokes, etc.  The IC may choose to utilize these companies as individual resources.
    Add?l Rescue Task Forces
    Add?l Alarms
A second or higher alarm following the transmission of a 10-60 signal will require only the balance
of engines, ladders and chief officers needed to fulfill
the requirement for the multiple alarm.
 
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