ABC Question

HFN01 said:
A further question on this: aside from the fact an ABC gets relieved by a BC as incident commander, what other positions is the ABC restricted from? On a second alarm, I believe ABCs are not allowed to be assigned safety, correct? Am I also correct to say they don't use ABCs in the SOC battalions (RB, HB, MB), nor in Safety?
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Correct on all counts.
 
HFN01 said:
A further question on this: aside from the fact an ABC gets relieved by a BC as incident commander, what other positions is the ABC restricted from? On a second alarm, I believe ABCs are not allowed to be assigned safety, correct? Am I also correct to say they don't use ABCs in the SOC battalions (RB, HB, MB), nor in Safety?
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They do not use ABC's in the Rescue BN....it is odd because the pool of assigned SOC Company CPT's are usually some of the most experienced but they do not have them ABC but in the regular DV's a LT promoted to CPT last week can be an ABC.
 
68jk09 said:
They do not use ABC's in the Rescue BN....it is odd because the pool of assigned SOC Company CPT's are usually some of the most experienced
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So lets say if there's a vacancy in the Resuce BN, if there's no one usually assisgned to the rescue battalion to fill it. Do they get someone from either the Hazmat BN, Marine BN, Safety BN? Or do they find a BC that has experience within the SOC and have them work the RB for the tour?
 
Darrell said:
So lets say if there's a vacancy in the Resuce BN, if there's no one usually assisgned to the rescue battalion to fill it. Do they get someone from either the Hazmat BN, Marine BN, Safety BN? Or do they find a BC that has experience within the SOC and have them work the RB for the tour?
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Someone else may know all the criteria but as a starting point I believe anybody (BC or FF) in any of those units (RB, MB, HB, SB) have to be HAZMAT Level 2 trained. Not sure where they get their extra manpower when vacancies arise.
 
Darrell said:
So lets say if there's a vacancy in the Resuce BN, if there's no one usually assisgned to the rescue battalion to fill it. Do they get someone from either the Hazmat BN, Marine BN, Safety BN? Or do they find a BC that has experience within the SOC and have them work the RB for the tour?
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A BC from the Rescue BN usually fills it on comp time.
 
HFN01 said:
Thanks. Can they take any of the other pre-designations? RUL, SAM, ARC, etc? Or is the basic principle that ABCs are generally only used for fire duty?
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Unsure for most of the designations, but I would assume its a negative for ARC, BCs need to be specially trained for that assignment, and probably also no for the Transit/Rail Liaison, High-Rise Air Team, and planning section.
 
NikFDNY said:
Unsure for most of the designations, but I would assume its a negative for ARC, BCs need to be specially trained for that assignment, and probably also no for the Transit/Rail Liaison, High-Rise Air Team, and planning section.
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I've seen ABC RUL's on rundowns, unless I'm going crazy and it was FF
 
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