4/6/21 Queens 8th Alarm Box 7864

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Capttomo said:
Do the math and you see that between 550 and 600 firefighters responded to the scene at one point today. The majority of departments in this country don’t have that many total members. And only like 25 - 30 departments in this country have that many on duty at a time.
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Capttomo said:
Do the math and you see that between 550 and 600 firefighters responded to the scene at one point today. The majority of departments in this country don’t have that many total members. And only like 25 - 30 departments in this country have that many on duty at a time.
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Do you think that many have that many firefighters on duty at one time? I'm betting it's considerably less than that. I was thinking that Atlanta would have that many but their total staffing is only about 1200., Miami is only 2700, Boston 1500, Dallas 2000...

The only departments I found with staffing over 3000 members doing a quick search were; Houston 4000, LA 3300 & Chicago 5200. I'm sure there are others that I missed but these are the only ones I found doing a quick search.
 
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I'm still trying to figure out who goes to the trouble of making a trench cut - and DOESN'T PULL IT?? And they wonder why it jumped the trench? That's because when you don't pull it, there IS NO trench! We used to pull the ceilings below the trench and have a charged line to protect the trench, either on the top floor or on the roof. This first trench cut was made at 2:00 pm. I'm wondering who ordered it not pulled, and why.
 
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( FDNY BOX 7864 - QUEENS ) - FDNY BATTLING A MAJOR EPIC 8TH ALARM FIRE IN A MULTIPLE DWELLING ON 34TH AVENUE IN THE JACKSON HEIGHTS AREA OF QUEENS IN NEW YORK CITY. ***** ( THIS VIDEO INCLUDES A RARE NEWS CONFERENCE BY FDNY COMMISSIONER NIGRO REGARDING THIS 8TH ALARM FIRE )*****
 
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Bulldog said:
Do you think that many have that many firefighters on duty at one time? I'm betting it's considerably less than that. I was thinking that Atlanta would have that many but their total staffing is only about 1200., Miami is only 2700, Boston 1500, Dallas 2000...

The only departments I found with staffing over 3000 members doing a quick search were; Houston 4000, LA 3300 & Chicago 5200. I'm sure there are others that I missed but these are the only ones I found doing a quick search.
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Ok I’m
 
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seniorofficer said:
I'm still trying to figure out who goes to the trouble of making a trench cut - and DOESN'T PULL IT?? And they wonder why it jumped the trench? That's because when you don't pull it, there IS NO trench! We used to pull the ceilings below the trench and have a charged line to protect the trench, either on the top floor or on the roof. This first trench cut was made at 2:00 pm. I'm wondering who ordered it not pulled, and why.
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It may be they were waiting on the line to the roof as well as manpower below. As I understand it, because the fire apartment door was open, the top floor hallways were fully involved. And if the hallways were going, the trench cut may have been futile even if it had been pulled. Bottom line is if you weren't there, you can't judge the decisions made by those who were.
 
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UnitWithTheUrgent said:
Address: 89-01 (A wing) 89-11 (B wing) 34th Ave. off 90th St.

Fire on the top floor & into the cockloft of a 6 story 150x100 class 3 MD

Box loaded up due to calls - 13:05

L-154: Urgent 10-75 - Top floor fire - 13:07

L-136 FAST

B-46: All Hands - Extra E&T (E-292 & TL-117) - 13:08

B-46: 2 L/S, 1 L/O - DWH - 13:14

D-14: Transmit a 2nd Alarm - Fire in the cockloft - 13:25

B-52 RUL, B-28 Safety

D-14: Transmit a 3rd Alarm with 2 additional Tower Ladder's (TL-115 & TL-17 act. 117) - 13:35

Staging: Northern Blvd at 91st St.

D-14: 4 L/S/O - In the process of doing a trench cut - DWH - 13:45

D-14: Special call 2 additional trucks (L-128 & L-140) - 13:47

FC: 5 L/S, 4 L/O - 4 TL's setup standing by - Cockloft nozzle in operation - Trench cut has been made not pulled at this time - DWH - 13:59

FC: We're pulling all members off the top floor & putting all 4 TL's into operation - 14:02

FC: Special call 2 additional TL's (TL-12 act. 163 & TL-54 act. 117) - 14:05

FC: Special call 1 additional truck to relieve the FAST truck (L-151) - 14:08

FC: Transmit a full 4th Alarm - Fire has jumped the trench cut into the B wing - 14:09

FC: Special call 2 additional BC's above the 4th (B-37 & B-35) - 14:12

FC: The FAST truck has been put to work (for firefighting duty) - L-140 is now designated the FAST truck - 14:25

FC: Per C-4a, 4 TL's, 3 TL's in operation - Heavy fire in the A wing - Members are on the B wing trying to keep it from spreading - Special call 2 additional trucks (L-130 act. 154 & H&L-143 act. 136) - 14:35

FC: By the orders of a Car 4a, Transmit a 5th Alarm - 14:40

FC: 4 TL's in operation, 2 hand-lines operating from the top of the B wing - 14:43

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks (TL-124 & TL-35 act. 163) - 14:48

FC: Special call 2 additional BC's (B-10 act. 45 & B-17 act. 52) - 14:56

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks (TL-146 & L-103 act. 112) - 15:12

FC: By the orders of a Car 4, Transmit a full 6th Alarm - 15:15

FC: Special call 4 additional trucks (L-29, L-176, TL-7 act. 163 & TL-164 act. 138) - 15:30

FC: Special call 1 additional truck to relieve the FAST truck (TL-158 act. 152) - 15:40

FC: Special call another Squad (SQ-41) - 15:44

FC: Special call 1 additional BC (B-8) - 16:05

FC: Special call 1 additional BC (B-6 act. 45) - 16:07

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks (L-11 act. 136 & L-173 act. 154) - 16:15

FC: By the orders of a Car 4, Transmit a full 7th Alarm - 16:26

FC: Special call Mobile Command Center-1 - 16:40

FC: Special call 2 additional BC's (B-20 & B-13 act. 12?) - 17:14

FC: Special call 1 additional truck to relieve the FAST truck (L-150) - 17:48

FC: By the orders of a Car 4, Special call 4 engines & 2 trucks - 18:01

QD transmitting the 8th Alarm

FC: Special call 1 additional BC - 18:08

FC: Special call 2 95ft TL's (TL-9 & TL-107) - 18:20

FC: Special call 2 BC's (Identities not announced) - 18:47

FC: Special call 2 RAC units (RAC-3 & RAC-?) - 19:18

FC: Per C-4, continuing exterior operations, 3 TL's in operation - PWH (Duration: 6 hours & 18 min.) - 19:20

FC: Special call 4 engines, 3 trucks & 2 BC's for relief (Companies are listed in the rundown) - 19:46

MCC: Special call a truck to relieve the FAST truck (L-10) & an additional 95ft TL to relieve TL-12 (TL-58) - 20:24

MCC: Special call 3 engines (E-205, 246 & 55) - 20:51

MCC: Special call 4 engines & a BC (Companies listed below) - 23:20

MCC: Special call a truck to relieve the FAST truck (L-165) - Also assign TL-119 & TL-44 & 1 more BC (B-58) - 23:27

MCC: Per C-4c, 3 TL's still operating hitting pockets of fire - This will be a prolonged operation - Under Control - 00:07

Duration: 11 hours & 4 min.

10-75 - All Hands:
E-307, 316, 289, 287, 292 s/c
L-154, 138, 136F, 117 s/c
B-46, 49
R-4
SQ-288
D-14
RAC-2

2nd Alarm:
E-263, 312, 325
L-163
B-45, 52R, 28S
FC, SB, RB, TSU-1, CTU, RM
E-324 w/ Sat. 4

3rd Alarm:
E-273, 259, 319, 260
L-129, 116, 115 s/c, 17 (act. 117) s/c, 128 s/c, 140 s/c, 12 (act. 163) s/c, 54 (act. 117) s/c, 151F s/c
B-50, 12 Staging, 58 Air Recon, 32 (act. 46) s/c
MSU
E-35 Communications
RAC-4
Car-22e, 12, 12b, 2h

4th Alarm:
E-43 (act. 262), 305, 274, 291
L-135, 106, 130 (act. 154) s/c, 143 (act. 136) s/c
B-37 s/c, 35 s/c
Car-4a

5th Alarm:
E-258, 206, 238, 297
L-124 s/c, 35 (act. 163) s/c, 146 s/c, 103 (act. 112) s/c
B-10 (act. 45) s/c, 17 (act. 52) s/c
Car-4

6th Alarm:
E-320 (act. 307), 229, 271, 277
L-144, 125, 29 s/c, 176 s/c, 7 (act. 163) s/c, 164 (act. 138) s/c, 158F (act. 152) s/c, 11 (act. 136) s/c, 173 (act. 154) s/c
B-39, 8 s/c, 6 (act. 45) s/c
SQ-41 s/c
Car-33

7th Alarm:
E-295, 216, 262 (act. 289), 286 (act. 287)
L-14, 104, 150F s/c
B-51S, 20 s/c, 13 s/c
MCC-1 s/c
Car-23

8th Alarm:
E-218, 83, 293, 315
L-16 (act. 116), 127, 9 s/c, 107 s/c
B-44, 54 s/c, 47 s/c
RAC-3 s/c, ? s/c
Car-4c

Relief at 19:45
E-306, 308, 1, 317, 205 s/c, 246 s/c, 55 s/c
L-126, 47, 120, 10F s/c, 58 s/c
B-27, 31

Relief at 23:20
E-64, 210, 82, 14
L-119, 44, 165F
B-53, 58

Relocations include:
E-286 to E-287
E-26 to E-287
E-298 to E-292
E-262 to E-289
E-320 to E-307
E-67 to E-307
E-43 to E-262
E-69 to E-262
E-47 to E-263
E-16 to E-260
E-221 to E-325
E-64 to E-273
E-233 to E-319
E-230 to E-305
E-304 to E-274
E-22 to E-258
E-23 to E-316
E-279 to E-216
L-130 to L-154
L-173 to L-154
L-42 to L-154
TL-44 to TL-154
H&L-143 to L-136
H&L-101 to H&L-106
L-133 to L-129
L-112 to L-151
L-11 to L-136
L-3 to L-136
L-103 to L-112
L-132 to L-128
L-16 to L-116
L-30 to L-116
L-174 to TL-107
L-109 to L-174
TL-17 to TL-117
TL-54 to TL-117
TL-33 to TL-117
TL-51 to TL-144
TL-12 to TL-163
TL-111 to TL-135
TL-164 to TL-138
TL-119 to TL-138
TL-158 to TL-152
TL-35 to TL-163
TL-7 to TL-163
TL-23 to TL-14
TL-157 to TL-127
B-10 to B-45
B-6 to B-45
B-32 to B-46
B-38 to B-50
B-17 to B-52
B-51 to B-52
B-3 to B-45
B-41 to B-47
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Title given to Car 23, all the lists only go to Car 22F
 
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CJames21 said:
Title given to Car 23, all the lists only go to Car 22F
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This is what I have for car numbers after 22F: ( I do not maintain the names behind the cars, many changes that happen too often)

23 - PIO (Public Information Officer)
23B - Deputy Press Secretary
23D - Duty Press Car
23E - Fleet Mechanic Supervisor
23F - Forensic/Photo Unit
24 - Director Tech Services
24A - Deputy Director - Tech Services
24B - Director - Medical Equipment Unit
24C - Director - Fire Tools & Equipment
30 - Chief Medical Officer BHS
32 - Medical Officer Bronx & Manhattan
33 - Medical Officer Brooklyn, Queens & Staten Island
35 - Direcor Counseling Services
36A - Chaplan
36B - Chaplan
36C - Chaplan
36D - Chaplan
36F - Chaplan
36G - Chaplan
36H - Chaplan
56 - Honorary Chief of Department
421 - Acting Command Chief
422 - Acting Command Chief
 
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rangermsg1 said:
This is what I have for car numbers after 22F: ( I do not maintain the names behind the cars, many changes that happen too often)

23 - PIO (Public Information Officer)
23B - Deputy Press Secretary
23D - Duty Press Car
23E - Fleet Mechanic Supervisor
23F - Forensic/Photo Unit
24 - Director Tech Services
24A - Deputy Director - Tech Services
24B - Director - Medical Equipment Unit
24C - Director - Fire Tools & Equipment
30 - Chief Medical Officer BHS
32 - Medical Officer Bronx & Manhattan
33 - Medical Officer Brooklyn, Queens & Staten Island
35 - Direcor Counseling Services
36A - Chaplan
36B - Chaplan
36C - Chaplan
36D - Chaplan
36F - Chaplan
36G - Chaplan
36H - Chaplan
56 - Honorary Chief of Department
421 - Acting Command Chief
422 - Acting Command Chief
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Ray I am curious of how many of those cars are still in service I'm sure 100-102 are no more lol

But a good list not sure if I have ever seen that one.
 
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That is a good list detailing what Title is aligned with what car however I think there are several numbers on the list that are not dedicated FDNY vehicles but rather "call signs" to be used to contact the specific Official or agency....for example i don't think Car 90 is an actual FDNY vehicle but rather a "call sign" to contact the Mayoral staff in one of their agency vehicles.
 
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( FDNY BOX 7864 - QUEENS ) - FDNY COMMISSIONER DANIEL A. NIGRO BRIEFING THE MEDIA DURING A MAJOR EPIC 8TH ALARM FIRE IN A MULTIPLE DWELLING ON 34TH AVENUE IN THE JACKSON HEIGHTS AREA OF QUEENS IN NEW YORK CITY.
 
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