FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section

[fdhistorian]

Battalion 30 appeared when the original Brooklyn and Queens battalions had 20 added to their number. 
It disappeared when the Brooklyn and Queens battalions had 10 more added to their number in 1908, thus becoming today's Battalion 40.

Battalion 30 Organized         436 39th St, Brooklyn 1898 with Engine 28
Battalion 30 Renumbered        as Battalion 40           1906

Companies in Battalion 30

1898 - 1900 Battalion 30 E1     E20 E28   E41   L9   L14
1900 - 1905 Battalion 30 E101 E120 E128 E141c L59 L64
1905 - 1906 Battalion 30 E101 E120 E123 E128 E141c   L59 L64

*c = combination engine and ladder

 

[fdhistorian]

Battalion 40 originated as District 10 (originally District 1) of the Brooklyn Fire Department
It became Battalion 10 Brooklyn (because there already was a Battalion 10 in Manhattan) when BFD became part of FDNY.
It was renumbered as Battalion 30 when Brooklyn and Queens battalions were renumbered in 1898.
It was renumbered as Battalion 40 when Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island battalions were renumbered in 1906.

Battalion 40 Organized 436 39th St 1906 with Engine 128
Battalion 40 Relocated 5011 7th Ave 1917 with Engine 278
Battalion 40 Temporary 5209 5th Ave 1975 with Ladder 114
Battalion 40 Relocated 5011 7th Ave 1975 with Engine 278
Battalion 40 Relocated 5209 5th Ave 2003 with Ladder 114
Battalion 40 Temporary 1336 60th St 2004 with Engine 247
Battalion 40 New Station 5113 4th Ave 2009 with Engine 201

 

[fdhistorian]

Battalion 40 originated as District 10 (originally District 1) of the Brooklyn Fire Department
It became Battalion 10 Brooklyn (because there already was a Battalion 10 in Manhattan) when BFD became part of FDNY.
It was renumbered as Battalion 30 when Brooklyn and Queens battalions were renumbered in 1898.
It was renumbered as Battalion 40 when Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island battalions were renumbered in 1906.

Battalion 40 Organized 436 39th St 1906 with Engine 128
Battalion 40 Relocated 5011 7th Ave 1917 with Engine 278
Battalion 40 Temporary 5209 5th Ave 1975 with Ladder 114
Battalion 40 Relocated 5011 7th Ave 1975 with Engine 278
Battalion 40 Relocated 5209 5th Ave 2003 with Ladder 114
Battalion 40 Temporary 1336 60th St 2004 with Engine 247
Battalion 40 New Station 5113 4th Ave 2009 with Engine 201

Brooklyn District Engineer 1

1869 - 1882 District Engineer 1 E1 E2 L1
1882 - 1889 District Engineer 1 E1 E2 E20 L1
1889 - 1891 District Engineer 1 E1 E2 E20 E28 L1
1891 - 1892 District Engineer 1 E1 E2 E20 E28 L1 L9

Brooklyn District Engineer 10

1892 - 1896 District Engineer 10 E1 E20 E28 L9
1896 - 1898 District Engineer 10 E1 E20 E28 E41 L9 L14

Battalion 30 was first activated from 1898 to 1906 when it was renumbered as Battalion 40.

1898 - 1900 Battalion 30 E1 E20 E28 E41 L9 L14
1900 - 1905 Battalion 30 E101 E120 E128 E141c L59 L64
1905 - 1906 Battalion 30 E101 E120 E123 E128 E141c L59 L64

Companies in Battalion 40

1906 - 1913 Battalion 40 E101 E128 E141c L64
1913 - 1914 Battalion 40 E201 E228 E241c E278 E282 L114
1914 - 1941 Battalion 40 E201 E228 E241 E278 E282 L114 L148
1941 - 1951 Battalion 40 E201 E241 E278 E282 L109 L114 L148
1951 - 1969 Battalion 40 E201 E228 E247 E278 E282 L114 L148
1969 - 1975 Battalion 40 E201 E241 E278 E282 L109 L114 L148
1975 - 1979 Battalion 40 E201 E241 E278 E282 L109 L114 L148
1979 - 1989 Battalion 40 E201 E228 E241 E278 E282 L109 L114 L148
1989 - 2003 Battalion 40 E201 E228 E241 E278 L109 L114
2003 - Battalion 40 E201 E228 E241 E247 L109 L114

*c = combination engine and ladder

 

[kidfrmqns]

I believe this may have been discussed before, but I can not find the info. When 283's house was built what other units were slated to go there? Seems strange to have 4 bays built for a single engine.

 

[68jk09]

^^^^^  When 283s present FH opened it had 283...SQ*4...DV*15 ....DEPT AMBULANCE*2 & room for a Truck that was never placed there.

 

[fdhistorian]

^^^^^  When 283s present FH opened it had 283...SQ*4...DV*15 ....DEPT AMBULANCE*2 & room for a Truck that was never placed there.

Ladder 120 was there temporarily in the mid 1990's and more recently Ladder 174 during renovations to their quarters.

 

[fdhistorian]

Battalion 56 was a War Years battalion created from the second section of Battalion 18.

Battalion 18-2 Organized 925 E Tremont Ave                   1965 at Engine 45
Battalion 18-2 Disbanded to organize Battalion 56           1967

Battalion 56   Organized 453 E 176th St                          1969 at Ladder 27, from Battalion 18-2
Battalion 56   Relocated 460 Cross Bronx Expressway    1975 at Engine 46
Battalion 56   Disbanded                                             1989

 

[fdhistorian]

Battalion 56 was a War Years battalion created from the second section of Battalion 18.

Battalion 18-2 Organized 925 E Tremont Ave                   1965 at Engine 45
Battalion 18-2 Disbanded to organize Battalion 56           1967

Battalion 56   Organized 453 E 176th St                          1969 at Ladder 27, from Battalion 18-2
Battalion 56   Relocated 460 Cross Bronx Expressway    1975 at Engine 46
Battalion 56   Disbanded                                             1989

Companies in Battalion 56

1969 - 1971 Battalion 56
1971 - 1972 Battalion 56 E42 E46 L27 L27-2 L56
1972 - 1974 Battalion 56 E42 E46 L27 L56   L58 S1
1974 - 1975 Battalion 56 E42 E46 L27 L56         S1
1975 - 1981 Battalion 56 E42 E46 L27 L56
1981 - 1984 Battalion 56 E42 E46 L27 L58
1984 - 1987 Battalion 56 E42 E46 L27 L56
1987 - 1989 Battalion 56 E42 E46 E48     L27 L56

 

[turk132]

I believe L56 moved from E42 to E48 in 1981. At the time L56 was in B56 and E 48 was in B18.  The two companies stayed in their respective Battalions for a period of time, even though in the same quarters. Not sure of the date, but E48 went to B56 from B18 until B56 was closed in 1989, then E48 and L56 went to B18.

 

[JohnnyGage]

Correct turk, for a few years it was only 88/38 & 45/58 that made up the 18th, back then you were only detailed within your Battalion too...details were simple for us then only one place to go!

 

[fdhistorian]

I believe L56 moved from E42 to E48 in 1981. At the time L56 was in B56 and E 48 was in B18.  The two companies stayed in their respective Battalions for a period of time, even though in the same quarters. Not sure of the date, but E48 went to B56 from B18 until B56 was closed in 1989, then E48 and L56 went to B18.

Correct turk, for a few years it was only 88/38 & 45/58 that made up the 18th, back then you were only detailed within your Battalion too...details were simple for us then only one place to go!

Thank you for catching and explaining that anomaly.  My original notes were correct but it seemed to be an overlooked error when I was double checking the post, so I "corrected' it.  It is back to the way it should be now.

Battalion 56 would have had only 3 companies if Ladder 56 had been assigned to the 18th in 1981.

Another interesting trivia - Battalion 56 had more Ladder companies than Engine companies from 1969 to 1974.

 

[turk132]

I believe L56 moved from E42 to E48 in 1981. At the time L56 was in B56 and E 48 was in B18.  The two companies stayed in their respective Battalions for a period of time, even though in the same quarters. Not sure of the date, but E48 went to B56 from B18 until B56 was closed in 1989, then E48 and L56 went to B18.

Correct turk, for a few years it was only 88/38 & 45/58 that made up the 18th, back then you were only detailed within your Battalion too...details were simple for us then only one place to go!

Thank you for catching and explaining that anomaly.  My original notes were correct but it seemed to be an overlooked error when I was double checking the post, so I "corrected' it.  It is back to the way it should be now.

Battalion 56 would have had only 3 companies if Ladder 56 had been assigned to the 18th in 1981.

Another interesting trivia - Battalion 56 had more Ladder companies than Engine companies from 1969 to 1974.

fdhistorian, E48 was in Battalion 56 before 1988, not sure of the exact date, but closer to the time L56 came to Webster Ave. Great job as always with your work!

 

[68jk09]

Both 232 & 176 had been in BN*44 but in 1988 in anticipation of 176 moving to the new FH farther up Rockaway Ave they placed 176 in the 37 & left 232 in the 44 so for several months you had an E & T in the same FH but in two different BNs.......RIP 232 "BMA ON THE WAY".

 

[fdhistorian]

I believe L56 moved from E42 to E48 in 1981. At the time L56 was in B56 and E 48 was in B18.  The two companies stayed in their respective Battalions for a period of time, even though in the same quarters. Not sure of the date, but E48 went to B56 from B18 until B56 was closed in 1989, then E48 and L56 went to B18.

Correct turk, for a few years it was only 88/38 & 45/58 that made up the 18th, back then you were only detailed within your Battalion too...details were simple for us then only one place to go!

Thank you for catching and explaining that anomaly.  My original notes were correct but it seemed to be an overlooked error when I was double checking the post, so I "corrected' it.  It is back to the way it should be now.

Battalion 56 would have had only 3 companies if Ladder 56 had been assigned to the 18th in 1981.

Another interesting trivia - Battalion 56 had more Ladder companies than Engine companies from 1969 to 1974.

fdhistorian, E48 was in Battalion 56 before 1988, not sure of the exact date, but closer to the time L56 came to Webster Ave. Great job as always with your work!

Thanks turk.  It had to have happened after 1984 and before 1988.  The department issued a revised unit location chart in 1987, so that would likely be the year. The original post is corrected, thanks for your great help.

 

[fdhistorian]

Both 232 & 176 had been in BN*44 but in 1988 in anticipation of 176 moving to the new FH farther up Rockaway Ave they placed 176 in the 37 & left 232 in the 44 so for several months you had an E & T in the same FH but in two different BNs.......RIP 232 "BMA ON THE WAY".

What happened in the Battalion 37 in 1985 when Ladder 175 moved in with Engine 332?  Looks like the 37th had no ladders from 1985 until 1987 when Ladder 176 came in.

 

[nfd2004]

As I understand it, "mack" will soon be back here with his latest update and continuing stories of FDNY Firehouses, it's members, apparatus, and videos.

As we know, this has been a very popular thread, following the "original" FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies series. That "original" has surpassed the ONE MILLION VIEWS mark, making it The Most Popular on this site (now at about 1,097,000 views). Plus, this 2nd section series. 

"fdhistorian" has also played a significant part on here as well. Thanks "Iggy". 

So guys, "I think it's pretty safe to say that our star player, Mr "mack" will be back soon, at it again.

P.S. - "mack" PLEASE, don't let me down now that I started to spread the word about this".

 

[kidfrmqns]

Looking forward to Mack returning!!

One of the sites had a page that was the history of each company and the years they were at certain quarters. Anyone know where that is? Reason I was asking is because I was wondering when 202/101 moved out of Van Brunet St and into their new quarters. The firehouse on Van Brunet, now occupied by Friends of Firefighters looks so old, I couldn't imagine units still running out of there.

 

[jking7]

https://nyfd.com/history/cityhist.pdf

 

[fdhistorian]

Looking forward to Mack returning!!

One of the sites had a page that was the history of each company and the years they were at certain quarters. Anyone know where that is? Reason I was asking is because I was wondering when 202/101 moved out of Van Brunet St and into their new quarters. The firehouse on Van Brunet, now occupied by Friends of Firefighters looks so old, I couldn't imagine units still running out of there.

All of the station histories have been posted on this thread or Part 1 (Original).  There is an index on Page 1.  Link:  http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,50639.0.html
Engine 202 is on Page 12 of the original thread.  Link:  http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php?topic=14180.165

Companies moved out of 199 Van Brunt St on March 10, 1960.

 

[fdhistorian]

https://nyfd.com/history/cityhist.pdf

This is Mike Boucher's original work.  It is being updated and enhanced with additional new research by 'mack' and 'fdhistorian' and posted on this thread.