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GFD70

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Interesting how they are white and red on R*1, but yellow and red on SQ*8
NFPA specifies what are acceptable colors for the stripes. Supposedly, the next edition will allow a wider variety of colors as long as they contrast each other. The Sq-8 style appear to be NFPA compliant. The Rescue 1 version is not. Either way, can't fault the added layer of safety.
 

Nasibova

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NFPA specifies what are acceptable colors for the stripes. Supposedly, the next edition will allow a wider variety of colors as long as they contrast each other. The Sq-8 style appear to be NFPA compliant. The Rescue 1 version is not. Either way, can't fault the added layer of safety.
l am actually quite surprised that chevrons weren't used a lot sooner in FDNY.
 

Lebby

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NFPA specifies what are acceptable colors for the stripes. Supposedly, the next edition will allow a wider variety of colors as long as they contrast each other. The Sq-8 style appear to be NFPA compliant. The Rescue 1 version is not. Either way, can't fault the added layer of safety.
Seagrave probably didn't want the liability of using non-NFPA complaint colors. Speculation of course
 

68jk09

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Who is the authority that decides what colors are compliant ?......on another note i originally thought the Blue lights were not a big deal but after having seen them on vehicles while approaching them i think they are very effective.
 

NorthPhillyCowboy

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Phila FD now has the chevron pattern wherever possible on the rear of our rigs. Started out with our medic units then gradually progressed t include all others.

Surprised that we haven't embraced the reality of blue lights being adopted as more visible.

Don't forget that the NFPA Standard is nothing more than a consolidated "Yeah, this seems like a good idea." Unless the authority having jurisdiction formally adopts them by means of code or law, they are nothing more than a suggested practice.

Only 2 things we hate in the fire service: (1) the way things are and (2) change.
 

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Seagrave probably didn't want the liability of using non-NFPA complaint colors. Speculation of course
The liability wouldn't go on Seagrave if the colors for the striping were specified by FDNY. There are many other ISO/NFPA requirements that FDNY doesn't follow in one way or another.
 

GFD70

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The liability wouldn't go on Seagrave if the colors for the striping were specified by FDNY. There are many other ISO/NFPA requirements that FDNY doesn't follow in one way or another.
Usually the manufacturer will require the buyer to sign off on anything that isn't NFPA compliant when they sign the final paperwork. I've seen some pretty creative designs with the rear chevrons. One department did the American flag with red white and blue stripes.
 

btanner.indy

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Police went to Red/Blue lights years ago. The reason is red is more visible during day light hours and blue is more visible during night time hours.
 
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