VINTAGE FDNY WAR YEAR LIDS

Did the job use the black frontpice for Marine Co's? When did the job color code the inserts for special units such as Marine, Squad, etc?
 
Another Bronx bend sighting!

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Look, you no longer need to bake your lid at 350 degrees for ten minutes to get that salty Bronx bend Hollywood look, all you need to do is just order it!..."one Bronx bend helmet with a five year smoke stained frontpiece to go, please...."

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memory master said:
I suppose that the old '233' front piece was from when it was a boat?
I think that was Engine 223.
As far as I know it was always Brooklyn land Engine 33, 133, and 233.
 
Gage,
Inserts came about 1959, illustration from Oct 1959 WNYF.  Boats got green inserts, prior to that they were black, same as any other Engine Company,
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t123ken said:
memory master said:
I suppose that the old '233' front piece was from when it was a boat?
I think that was Engine 223.
As far as I know it was always Brooklyn land Engine 33, 133, and 233.

223 and 232 were boats

233 was/is a land engine

232 was both a marine and a land engine (at different times)
 
811 and fdhistorian, you gents are the best!...Good factual info, great insightful contributions... love it and thanks!
 
fdhistorian said:
t123ken said:
memory master said:
I suppose that the old '233' front piece was from when it was a boat?
I think that was Engine 223.
As far as I know it was always Brooklyn land Engine 33, 133, and 233.

223 and 232 were boats

233 was/is a land engine

232 was both a marine and a land engine (at different times)

Fireboat Engine 85 also became a land engine; and, like 232, in a Tin House
 
811 said:
fdhistorian said:
t123ken said:
memory master said:
I suppose that the old '233' front piece was from when it was a boat?
I think that was Engine 223.
As far as I know it was always Brooklyn land Engine 33, 133, and 233.

223 and 232 were boats

233 was/is a land engine

232 was both a marine and a land engine (at different times)

Fireboat Engine 85 also became a land engine; and, like 232, in a Tin House

Engine 43 and Engine 66 were the other two land engines that started out as fireboats
 
Here is a nice collection of DCFD frontpieces, years ago the fire dept was referred to FDDC:

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And here is a nice lid collection:


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