1/10/25 Bronx 5th Alarm Box 3462

For the new member here, 52/52 do not get relocated due to them being in a remote area, they do respond to fires on multiple alarms when directed by dispatcher. When they do respond to,fires they also must be filled with a relocator. Todays dispatch protocols use incoming units relocating into fire area to respond to the fire if multiple alarms are transmitted. Old box assignment cards are pretty much a thing of the past. Spare rigs do not figure into this type of fire response, L-52 will be in a spare for a very long time due to their regular apparatus being totaled in a crash.
 
For the new member here, 52/52 do not get relocated due to them being in a remote area, they do respond to fires on multiple alarms when directed by dispatcher. When they do respond to,fires they also must be filled with a relocator. Todays dispatch protocols use incoming units relocating into fire area to respond to the fire if multiple alarms are transmitted. Old box assignment cards are pretty much a thing of the past. Spare rigs do not figure into this type of fire response, L-52 will be in a spare for a very long time due to their regular apparatus being totaled in a crash.
Thanks for the explanation
 
Late to the party here but I have a couple questions after reading posts

when command asks for an MCC but doesn’t need the Engine company who transports the MCC? Is the engine just down a man?

If the contract states they cannot get the meal in a unit older then 10 years who gets it if both companies are in such a rig?
 
Great run down Signal as usual. Under the previous Alarm system, what Alarm would this be?
Not counting the Engines and Chiefs, it would be a 12th Alarm worth of trucks. I counted every unit that was s/c'ed after the 5th. And its to confusing. So I'm gonna take my best guess, maybe a 7th-8th maybe even a 9th Alarm.
 
A few thoughts on the Super Pumper. With respect, I don't understand the obsession with asking about SP1 on every big fire. This misses the point about the current unit's capabilities. From what I can tell, people are viewing the current SP through the same lens as the old SP even though there are major differences. The current unit's primary capability is for foam operations. This is why it is assigned on 10-86, 10-87, Airport Crash Boxes, and Pipeline leaks, and not on multiple alarms unless special called. Does it have a big pump? Yes, but FDNY's current fleet of engines is more than capable of supplying the volumes needed for a job like this. What about last night's operation would have changed with the presence of the super pumper? Absent special circumstances, I can't see it ever being called to these types of fires when the IC already has, say, twenty-five 2000gpm pumpers already assigned.
 
What is the "New Super Pumper" for? I worked details in the Mack Super Pumper System in the 1970s. We often did not get used when we arrived but in large fires we made a big difference. Why do each of the Satellite units Engine Companies not have a large Capacity Pumper like San Francisco's for major fires. Much more training is needed but it can be done even with the 2,000 GPM units the FDNY already has.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
Late to the party here but I have a couple questions after reading posts

when command asks for an MCC but doesn’t need the Engine company who transports the MCC? Is the engine just down a man?

If the contract states they cannot get the meal in a unit older then 10 years who gets it if both companies are in such a rig?
MCC2 is with FC1 off duty members from FC staff it. And better hope they have food in the fridge or someone brings something at shift change or better yet order something lol…
 
MCC2 is with FC1 off duty members from FC staff it. And better hope they have food in the fridge or someone brings something at shift change or better yet order something lol…
That part of the contract, I will never understand. I understand the part about Relocations and BI's. But not being able to get the meal is, something..it makes zero sense to me.
 
Are they still working this fire or is it down to watchline at this point?

Surprised to see that a satellite wasn't used for deluge purposes given the volume and ferocity of the fire. Those flames were white hot and ripping in Skyler and Johns videos!
 
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