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This weekend they are here ...Thanks to Truck4 for the coverage .... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=553307141392962&set=a.336374419752903.78687.335546369835708&type=1&theaterHurricanes298 said:
100' Ferrara Rear Mount Aerials
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A spareRodent251 said:
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Thats a neat lil shot.
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27 Truck a few weeks ago.
I think the ad on orders started before they even took delivery of the first rig. I would imagine with the way contracts are written theses days it would be tough to cancel the order if the rig meets the specs fdny provided. Your basicly stuck with what you get. There would probaly have to be a test clause or trial period written into the contract where they could cancel it with out a great reason. While I certainly think these rigs are not performing like they should and are apparently not performing as good as the old seagraves when they were new I'm sure Ferrara would sue if they were dumped and the lawyers fees would be hudge and they might have to pay them anyway. It seems the new engines ordered from KME they are trying to do it the right way with a demo so if they don't like em they can dump em and move on to the next lowest bid. However I think fdny has more room to wiggle with KME because they are a new manufacturer for the city. Although it was ferraras first time making the ladders and rescues they had already provided rigs (hp pumpers, satellites, special units) there for I think the city may have overlooked putting a demo test before they bought all these rigs in the contract. I also believe when a contract for any rig is signed they basicly are the only one who can make that rig for a certian period (guessing 3 years) so even if they dont like them they couldn't give an order to seagrave or someone else until that contract period was up and re-bid. This is just my opinion of what I've seen so far, I haven't read the contracts but I do have some experience with other types of municipal contracts and this is what appears to have happened. Anyone feel free to add or correct me if I'm wrong
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billybob said:
First of all, you've got people here who work in and around them everyday. I'd believe what they tell you. Secondly, the rigs were ordered in large batches, so orders were in before the true train wreck revealed itself.
The city DOESN'T CARE. They put an order out for bid through DCAS and it's filled by the low bidder. END OF STORY.
JohnnyBopp said:
Well said, the city cares about one thing and one thing only and that is MONEY and how they can spend less of it, it does not concern the city yet because the repairs are not hitting there pockets yet because they require the big warranty, let's see how the feel when that runs out and the repairs come outta there pocket, there are guys on this site assigned to those rigs since they were new and they say there not the way they should be, just ask 4Truck, his rigs ass end drifts when going threw manhattan traffic, now tell me why a truck that cost that much is doing that
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4 truck said:
I DO like that they moved the storage space for the two cans. I'm over 6' tall and it was still a reach. I do like the compartment layout and the back-step as well, but man......that thing is a POS.
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looks like ferrara built 137 a new rig....... 137 was the first ferrara ladder put into service and was destroyed during hurricane sandy!
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BCR, 4 Truck JohnyBopp, and others, we have experienced the ass end swaying up here in Toronto with our aerial trucks (Smeals). I have personally experienced this with our A231. Having this happen in city traffic is one thing, when it happens on the highway with speeds around 45-55 mp/h (100 km/h for us Canadians) is truly scary.
On a positive note this ass swaying issue was resolved when it was determined that the trucks had the wrong type of rear tires on them. The tires were changed and the problem went away. I hope this helps.
Lee
On a positive note this ass swaying issue was resolved when it was determined that the trucks had the wrong type of rear tires on them. The tires were changed and the problem went away. I hope this helps.
Lee