FDNY Pumpers awarded to KME

Well played raybrag.  Prob misc storage for the 3 5gals buckets of foam that the engines carry
 
FDNYSTATENISLAND said:
I noticed that the # wasn't centered either. Also, I wonder what the big metal box behind the cab might be for it kinda sticks out. Maybe just storage.
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Are you talking about the one that's actually on top of the cab or the one that looks like it's actually at the front of the hose bed?  Many of the engines have one on top of the cab other never seen one like it at the front of the hose bed.
 
Bulldog said:
FDNYSTATENISLAND said:
I noticed that the # wasn't centered either. Also, I wonder what the big metal box behind the cab might be for it kinda sticks out. Maybe just storage.
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Are you talking about the one that's actually on top of the cab or the one that looks like it's actually at the front of the hose bed?  Many of the engines have one on top of the cab other never seen one like it at the front of the hose bed.
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  That box is the equivalent of the roof mounted boxe on Seagrave Marauder II models. If you've seen photos of the officer's side of the KME you can see that the box is shaped to make room for the booster tank filler on the driver's side and much wider on the officer side.
 
Bulldog, Im talking about the one right in front of the hose bed, I've never seen it either.

Thanks Gman for clearing it up, its different.
 
I dont work for KME my department has many KMEs in service and our drivers and roads could beat a tank to death. They have worked out great. I wish they would have gotten the ladder order also only three companies  could meet our TDA specs; pierce backed out because they could not make one with the short jack spread we needed nor could they make one with height and length restrictions we needed.
 
Has anybody else noticed that Stitchy hasn't come back and replied to any of the questions that were asked of him?
 
35 Photos posted from all around and in the new Engine

http://nycfire.net/gallery/fdny/kme/

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great job Lieu,  now curious with E56 disbanded in 1960 if they might be re-organizing the company with this rig. That sure would be an eye opener. Thanks for the pictures and be safe
 
Hi 4truck yes, that is most likely it, but, with all the talk about a new squad on SI it sure would be nice to see E56 go back in service on the island,
 
I can tell you that E56 will be going to CTS, now why they put 56 on it and not CTS like some of the other rigs, got me.

At one point they marked all the rigs at the ROCK with CTS or PFS, etc
Thought I even saw some reserve rigs running at PFS the other day.
 
Also the new KME rigs have the seat belt indicator hooked up to the buzzer and black box.
Told the rep that I give it 2 days before someone tries to disable the buzzer.  I wore a seat belt 100% of the time in the rear with the new design but there are still many that refuse.

Current FDNY policy on seat belts is %100 usage except during patient care in the back of an ambulance, all other times you must have a seat belt.

Operations is already talking about downloading the data from the black boxes to check for compliance and build stats.
 
Tom excellent photos............the Rig looks nice just scary how many gadgets to keep fine tuned.
 
The engines the KME's are set to replace are now getting long in the tooth, thankfully however, the era of Seagrave that the KME engines are replacing were the end of the line and were proven pieces, with all the niggles and snags ironed out, and are true workhorses, perhaps with one or two exceptions.

A colleague of mine visits a couple of Bronx Firehouses a few times a year, two of which still run the old seagraves set to be replaced by KMEs, and both engines feature constantly and without fail in all the reports and research  i do, E75 and E42, also.

Another busy Bronx engine, E45, also runs an older seagrave.

I can only say what my colleague has passed on, but for E75 and E42, the apparatus will pump water until they disintegrate, and E75 and E42 pump water two or three times a week at workers.

With  a bit of diamond plating on weather prone areas, the bodies are holding out, the only real complaint is they have no power left in the engines at all on runs, with many hills on 42 and 75 s areas, they crawl up hills often with the engine and gears screaming.... And the rig going nowhere fast!!!!

Yes KME is big in LA, and Boston, and other cities, but to,be honest...

Will the KMEs be able to withstand such abuse unique to the FDNY... Especially in the terrain demanding areas of  Da Bronx with hills and atrocious roads..

Will they stand the test of time and abuse... Or be 'Hanger Queens'...

Time will tell in a very short space of time i feel...

JT
 
I've been reading this thread periodically, and the overwhelming majority of folks (obviously) have minimal, if any faith in the future of KME apparatus within the FDNY.

Just to play "Devil's Advocate" - here's some food for thought:

What will everyone say if these engines actually turn out to be great, functional and long-lasting?  I'm aware that KME might have a negative reputation in other regions, but don't they deserve to (attempt to) prove themselves in NYC?

If they turn out to be garbage, then they're garbage. Until they've been on the streets for a few months, I guess we'll just to wait and see...
 
I think everyone would be happy if they turn out to be a rig that well serves the brothers and has minimal to down time and functions as it is designed to. I think what has a lot of people concerned is one being how long it is taking the rigs that will head to the spare pool are extremely tired and if the rigs don't work out the spare pool is going to be in bad shape in a fee years, another big worry I think people have is KME's poor reputation with quality and how large there first order is. Sure they should deffinatly have an opportunity to prove themselves however what if they don't prove to be any good ? Now you have 91 pumpers that are junk, buy four or five and try them out and let them be proven, and that's not just not KME, any new manufacturer for the city should not be given a huge order. Look at the Ferrara sticks, if they were only locked into a small number so they could try the design do you think they would have bought as many as they did ? The main problem is the city dragging and and getting to far behind on the replacements, if they got the ball rolling when the should have they could try a few out for a year and go from there, instead they wait so long that they have no other choice then to buy a ton of rigs because what they have is so worn down. I me a what if there ends up being a major flaw that takes a while to iron out and correct, so you think some of these rigs could hold on for another year ? I truely hope that the new rigs work out for the brothers of the fdny and KME proves to be a great rig
 
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