FDNY Chief Officer Cars and Vehicles

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68jk09 said:
^^^^^^^^  http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/print/volume-103/issue-12/features/shakeup-in-new-york-fire-officials.html

"Frank J. Quayle, Jr. was born on May 18, 1892 in Brooklyn, New York. His father, Frank J. Quayle, Sr. was a Captain in the FDNY having joined in 1888. From early in his career, Frank Jr. was very active politically, particularly in his home borough of Brooklyn. A lawyer by training, he represented the district at the Democratic National Conventions of 1932 and 1936. He was elected Sheriff of Kings County in 1934 and was named Postmaster of Brooklyn in 1940. In 1939 he launched an unsuccessful campaign for Brooklyn Borough President.

During the First World War, Mr. Quayle served as a Lieutenant in France with the 52nd Field Artillery and was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal.

Mayor William O'Dwyer appointed Frank Quayle to the post of Fire Commissioner on January 1, 1946. Immediately upon taking office, he abolished the 24-hour workday and won the gratitude of the Uniformed Firemen's Association. He oversaw the post-war boom of New York and the expansion of the fire department during that time.

Perhaps one of the most notable actions taken by Commissioner Quayle was to oversee the creation of the position of Chief of Staff and Operations in December 1946. When he was appointed, the office of Chief of Department was vacant. The Mayor had a strong personal friendship with Deputy Chief Frank Murphy and wanted Chief Murphy to have command of the Uniformed Force. Legislative and political wrangling ensued and Chief Murphy gained the position. When Commissioner Monaghan was appointed after Commissioner Quayle resigned, he abolished the position within one month of taking office.

Commissioner Quayle retired on December 1, 1950."

    - from Find a Grave
 
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Found this in another group:  Chief of the Fire Patrol, 1948 Buick (Gary Urbanowicz photo):

 

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Ladder 46's 1955 FWD 75 ft tiller, with what appears to be a 1962 Ford Custom Chief's vehicle parked behind it.  Also, not sure but it appears to be a 1965-66 Ford Chief's vehicle on the left edge of the photo, behind the fence. Marvin H. Cohen photo cross-posted from Facebook.
 
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The tool box on the running board just behind the chauffeur's seat was where the chauffeur stored his helmet, turnout coat and boots. The box at the very end of the rig was where the portable generator was stored. I guess it varied but that's how it was on L130's rig back in the day.
 

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Fire Patrol 9, Stagg Street, Brooklyn
 

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Looks like Fordham Landing along the harlem river north of Fordham Rd. Butler Lumber can be seen in back of 46.
 
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raybrag said:



Ladder 46's 1955 FWD 75 ft tiller, with what appears to be a 1962 Ford Custom Chief's vehicle parked behind it.  Also, not sure but it appears to be a 1965-66 Ford Chief's vehicle on the left edge of the photo, behind the fence. Marvin H. Cohen photo cross-posted from Facebook.
  L46's 1955 FWD 75ft. tiller was Shop #387. They ran with that rig until they finally got their first metal aerial (1962 Seagrave K model 100ft. ex-L43) in 1968. That 1955 FWD was then reassigned to L153 where it served until 1970. ;)
 
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'39 (I think) Ford of Battalion 43 with E245's 1937 Mack outside quarters of E245-E326-L161; photo from Ed Godoy's post on Facebook

 
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mack said:
Chief visit 160 Carlton Avenue 1940s:

I think it's more like the mid to late '30s, Joe.  Which would make it the 34 Bn (unless, as you said, it's the Division). It's almost certainly a 1933 DeSoto.  The '34s were Airflows.
 
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3511 said:
G-Man, as always, is correct. Some of the late 1930's Ahrens Fox distinctive pumpers hung around until replaced by the 58-59 CF Mack's. After 1956, however, they were no longer front line pieces,  mostly used as hose wagons or other second (reserve) pieces.

A little known fact:

The design for the '58/59 CF Mack was originally done by Ahrens Fox. The prototype was produced circa 1954/55, but the company went into receivership and Mack bought the design.

Ahrens Fox would have replaced its stalwart model of the late 1930's with a massive contract if they had only been able to hang on for a few years.

After WWII, the FDNY decided to purchase 750GPM pumpers. There were a lot available on the cheap as military surplus. The 1000GPM's of the 1930's ( Seagaves', Mack's, Ahrens Fox', Ward LaFrance') were retired from front line service during the 1950's. But their value as larger capacity pumpers kept them around as second pieces  for a number of years. Example: E88's 1936 Mack 1000GPM pumper served at E2 on the West Side from 1953 until the late 50's as a pumper/hose wagon.

Pardon me for bringing this forward from p 13. In the late 50's Mack bought Beck Bus, model C 85. Mack put the effort into making fire apparatus instead of busses, this was followed by the CF Series. Notice the similar styles...




 
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I saw this photo, I am interested about the rig. When I was a young lad in Canarsie, I saw this type of rig responding down Rockaway Pkwy, I noticed the high windshield, the canvas covering. I know the photo doesn't show much, but maybe one of you eagle eyed detectives can identify the make and model of this war horse...thanks!


 
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JohnnyGage said:
I saw this photo, I am interested about the rig. When I was a young lad in Canarsie, I saw this type of rig responding down Rockaway Pkwy, I noticed the high windshield, the canvas covering. I know the photo doesn't show much, but maybe one of you eagle eyed detectives can identify the make and model of this war horse...thanks!

Dan, that pumper looks like a 1953 Ward LaFrance with the riot roof and tarp over the hose bed. I know I had seen a photo of one of these on another site.
 
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fdce54 said:
JohnnyGage said:
I saw this photo, I am interested about the rig. When I was a young lad in Canarsie, I saw this type of rig responding down Rockaway Pkwy, I noticed the high windshield, the canvas covering. I know the photo doesn't show much, but maybe one of you eagle eyed detectives can identify the make and model of this war horse...thanks!

Dan, that pumper looks like a 1953 Ward LaFrance with the riot roof and tarp over the hose bed. I know I had seen a photo of one of these on another site.
Maybe this is what it is.....

 
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