FDNY Pumpers awarded to KME

Anyone know if any of the KME's will have 750 gallon tanks ? I think all the engines that have them are 2003. I know there isn't a lot of them but with SI being as busy as they are, there is a good possibility one of those remote company's can be alone for awhile. Does anyone rember if when they got the 750 seagraves if it was a seperate bid or just a modification on the standard bid.
 
BCR said:
Anyone know if any of the KME's will have 750 gallon tanks ? I think all the engines that have them are 2003. I know there isn't a lot of them but with SI being as busy as they are, there is a good possibility one of those remote company's can be alone for awhile. Does anyone rember if when they got the 750 seagraves if it was a seperate bid or just a modification on the standard bid.
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Earlier in the thread this is brought up.  All of the KME's are going to have the smaller tanks, none of them are going to have the 750 gallon ones.  Looks like the SI companies are going to get smaller tanks based on the information anybody has been able to determine so far.
 
The 750 tank was an add on option from what I understand, however the word is that they will stick with the 500 gallon tank for all rigs.
 
Hi Lieu, I have been following this subject of water problems on Staten Island for a while now. Rather than large booster tanks and or using Satellite to lay in LDH for water supply, why not go back to adding a couple of hose wagons in the remote areas. Two rigs, similar to the JFK E308 Mack wagon, as second pieces for two companies on the island sure could come in handy. In addition to the LDH hose load they could also carry a load of 1-3/4 hose and the large manifold that the satellites carry. Back in the fifties and sixties, when I was with Eng. 225 in East New York and there was the landfill and brush fields south of Linden Blvd. that hose wagon sure came in handy. Back then NO Booster tank so long stretches were the order of the day.
 
auxlteng225 said:
Hi Lieu, I have been following this subject of water problems on Staten Island for a while now. Rather than large booster tanks and or using Satellite to lay in LDH for water supply, why not go back to adding a couple of hose wagons in the remote areas. Two rigs, similar to the JFK E308 Mack wagon, as second pieces for two companies on the island sure could come in handy. In addition to the LDH hose load they could also carry a load of 1-3/4 hose and the large manifold that the satellites carry. Back in the fifties and sixties, when I was with Eng. 225 in East New York and there was the landfill and brush fields south of Linden Blvd. that hose wagon sure came in handy. Back then NO Booster tank so long stretches were the order of the day.
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Why not just an additional hose, possibly including LDH to the hose beds of the engine companies in SI and give them an additional man for the hydrant.  They could lay in on their own without having to worry about an additional piece of equipment!  That's certainly the way many companies across the United States do it.
 
good point BUT with the standard hose loads through out the department to modify and equip a couple of pumpers would cause confusion. With the second piece it could be set up the same way that we did back when. Second piece remained in quarters except for certain boxes and areas.  As has been mentioned many times probably the best solution would to be form a few more engine companies. Only time will tell.   
 
The 750 gallon tanks were used to augment water for brush fire operations not structural fires. With a few exceptions, almost all of SI has adequate hydrants. Also brush fire operations have changed over the last few years with the addition to the 1" forestry hose carried by several engines and the forestry manifolds carried by DC08 and a few other units. No real need for hose wagons or bigger tanks. When E159 responds with the sattelite on the all hands if they make it in they often operate as an additional engine or relieve 1st due units....not as a water supply resource unless it is needed.
 
tnx Dan, that does clear things up. I am curious about the high bid price for the new BFU rigs. Has any body seen the actual specs that went out on bid ? and if so do they call for a booster tank and small pump with pump and roll capability ? That would help explain  what appears to be an extremely high cost per unit.
 
auxlteng225 said:
tnx Dan, that does clear things up. I am curious about the high bid price for the new BFU rigs. Has any body seen the actual specs that went out on bid ? and if so do they call for a booster tank and small pump with pump and roll capability ? That would help explain  what appears to be an extremely high cost per unit.
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From the BFU thread:
4x4 with door cab
CAFS system
Front bumper remote monitor
500 gallon water
20 gallon foam tank with Class A Foam
Foam pickup tube for Class B Foams from5 gal cans

GVWR 29,000lbs min
4x4, 4 door conventional crew cab
wheel base 182" Aprox
Width 95"
Height no more then 9'4"
Length 315"Max
Clearance 9"Min
3 person rear seat

Body with 96"
Length 125"
4 compartments each side
Stokes basket storage
2 compartments on the top, one each side
Also add on option for high water.


 
tnx bulldog.  With that front monitor and 500 water and 20 foam tanks would have to say that a pump is most likely included.  From my volley days this sounds like a typical mini pumper set up such as the one I spec'd out for Spring Valley fire dept. That high water option was a smart move.  Should be a great rig.
 
The old large BFU's had 500 gallon tanks and 500 gpm pumps I imagine it will be similar but with the cafs and foam tank
 
Co's receiving the last round of Seagraves before the KMEs are receiving in service training now.  Rigs are due in early/mid June.
 
E 60 is currently at radio repair shop....They started installation at 2 pm  on Friday...It should be completed by Wednesday....The rig will go back to the shops for complete list review..I would guess they also started training since 287 & 295 have gone three times already.. All units are training on E 73s new rig.....I would like they should get it within a few weeks......
 
I know these two rigs aren't KME Engines but still:

New Engine 165:


And New Tower Ladder 105:




Both rigs lookin' sharp! Credit: Pics shared to NYC FIRE BUFFS FB group by Scott Berliner & Brendan Porteus from Firestore
 
E-73's new Seagrave Pumper:

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And 42 in a spare. What else is new?? They had just taken it OOS Sunday when I got to the firehouse. I just missed them.
 
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